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02-07-2013, 09:30 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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California Highway Patrol posts rules for legal lane-splitting by motorcyclists
I read this in today's paper and thought I'd share it here for my fellow CA riders.
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/07/517...rol-posts.html
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02-07-2013, 10:57 AM
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Big bouncy make big happy
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Thanks for posting, brieninsac. Interesting trend. 'Readers' Digest' version:
"The guidelines say motorcyclists can ride between two cars if there is room, but must do it at no more than 10 miles per hour faster than the vehicles they are passing. The guidelines also make it clear that motorcyclists should not attempt the maneuver at full freeway speeds, or in any traffic going 30 mph or faster. That essentially means the highest speed a motorcyclist should be going when lane-splitting is 39 mph." "...the guidelines do not reflect new policy. The CHP has long held that lane-splitting is legal in California because nothing in the state Vehicle Code specifically prohibits it." "...the state has engaged UC Berkeley researchers to study motorcycle crashes to reach better conclusions about motorcycling dangers in general, and lane-splitting in particular. Depending on the Berkeley study results, the state could adjust its lane-splitting guidelines..." "The guidelines note: • Inexperienced motorcyclists should not lane-split. • On freeways (when traffic has slowed to below 30 mph), motorcyclists should lane-split only between the two fast lanes. The slow lanes are too dangerous because vehicles there switch lanes more often coming from onramps and getting to offramps. • Motorcyclists should not lane-split in toll booth queues. • Law enforcement officers can, at their discretion, determine that a motorcyclist is lane-splitting unsafely. • Other drivers should not try to impede motorcyclists from lane-splitting." Full article: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/07/517...#storylink=cpy CHP Expanded Guidelines: http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html ADV: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=831278
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02-07-2013, 11:52 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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thanks, good to know and the rules seem very reasonable to me...have been on my own bike and had others pass me way too close in my lane at 60 plus and did not like that at all
when I do split lanes it is in 30 or below traffic already victor441 screwed with this post 02-07-2013 at 01:25 PM |
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02-07-2013, 12:36 PM
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Adventure Connoiseur
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Thanks for posting that!
The guidelines seem pretty sensible. The only one I hadn't thought about was not lane splitting between the two slowest lanes because of cars entering/exiting the roadway. That makes sense too, and I'll keep that in mind. I am a little concerned that they are tasking UC Berkeley with the study. They could very well decide that we must have flowers painted on our bikes to be legal when lane splitting, or that lane splitting hurts someone's feelings or exposes drivers to exhaust noise, and should be outlawed. Seriously. |
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02-07-2013, 01:26 PM
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02-07-2013, 03:24 PM
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tl;dr You have nothing to worry about. |
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02-07-2013, 03:45 PM
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Big bouncy make big happy
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Here's the expanded version:
"Messages for Other Vehicle Drivers 1) Lane splitting by motorcycles is not illegal in California when done in a safe and prudent manner. 2) Motorists should not take it upon themselves to discourage motorcyclists from lane splitting. 3) Intentionally blocking or impeding a motorcyclist in a way that could cause harm to the rider is illegal (CVC 22400). 4) Opening a vehicle door to impede a motorcycle is illegal (CVC 22517). 5) Never drive while distracted. 6) You can help keep motorcyclists and all road users safe by
These guidelines come after the May 3, 2012 California Office of Traffic Safety (OTS) results of the first-ever survey of California motorists and motorcycle riders on the subject of "lane splitting" which stated: "Of all drivers surveyed, 7.3% stated that they had tried to prevent a motorcycle from lane spitting." "...asked if motorcyclists ever experienced a vehicle trying to prevent them from lane splitting...67.2% of all respondents...mentioned that they had experienced this." http://www.ots.ca.gov/Media_and_Rese...ing_Survey.pdf
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02-07-2013, 04:39 PM
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Mostly common sense, I reckon. I personally limit myself to about 10-15 over and passing traffic 50 mph or under. Between two fastest lanes only, too
The MSF course is pretty clear on this. At least the one I took was. Quote:
The other side of that coin was lanesplitting on the I-40 on the outskirts of Albuquerque, NM. I was lucky I didn't get lynched! ![]() Hey man, it was hot and I'm from California! Move over!
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02-07-2013, 06:45 PM
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02-07-2013, 06:58 PM
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Optimus Primer
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So much bullshit. A set of guidelines is not law.
There is no law in California that sets lane-splitting to be illegal. Go ahead and do it, LEO will pull you over if they have a mind to, and will cite you for whatever they like - unsafe lane change, probably, or excessive speed - if that's the mood they're in.
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02-07-2013, 07:48 PM
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Big bouncy make big happy
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Since "law" has been mentioned, and the survey appears to have led to guidelines, does anyone know if conducting a study is the next step toward changing the law? If not, what is the purpose of the study?
Also, has there ever been a public awareness campaign to inform California drivers, and those visiting from out of state, that lane splitting is legal here? The survey indicates that obstructionist driver behavior stems from disapproval based on ignorance on the law.
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02-07-2013, 09:29 PM
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I always try to give room when driving my truck when I can..I got a D37 sticky in the back..most dual sport guys give the thumbs up. I usueually wave back ![]() Oh and as of this Saturday I will be a born again Riverside resident but there is no way I am riding the 91 to work on a bike... I am too chicken
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02-08-2013, 12:00 AM
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Road Warrior
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![]() As for the "guidelines", keep in mind that the basic speed law needs no posted speed limit to be enforceable. You can cite someone for the basic speed law if they are lanesplitting too agressively simply by articulating why their speed was unsafe for the conditions present. I think CHP put out these guidelines as a way of giving motorcyclists a head's up as to what is generally acceptable...kind of like the yellow "recommended night-time speed for turns" signs. No, they aren't law, but if you go above them you better be able to articulate why driving faster than the recommendation was perfectly safe. ![]() I almost always get waves in my patrol car from motorcyclists who are lanesplitting because I always swing out to give them more room. I like it when people do it on my bike so I excercize the same respect when not on the bike. |
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02-08-2013, 08:08 AM
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There were about 10 bikes that went by while I was sitting there with the LEO. I got a lecture about how dangerous it was. He was a pretty condesending AH so I just kept my mouth shut and kept repeating fuck you in my head. He let me go after about 15 minutes of lecture with no ticket. ![]() My local news showed a canned segment on TV this morning. When it came back to the bimbo announcers they both commented that "I don't know it seems pretty dangerous to me. I don't think it should be allowed." Then proceeded to a story about facebook and social media. Which they are both in favor of. Jedi5150 - thanks for your service and your consideration. I think we could use some more LEOs that ride.
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02-08-2013, 08:15 AM
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Optimus Primer
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I pass officers on bikes and in cruisers all the time, while splitting, and it's very cordial - a friendly wave is often offered, and returned.
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