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Old 02-10-2013, 07:27 PM   #31
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What is a "proper" mirror?
That would vary from vehicle to vehicle but you can have a 360 degree field of view without a shoulder check.

By way of example I had one of these in one of my cages back in the day.

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:35 PM   #32
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Yep. Always head-check. Wish everyone would...
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:04 PM   #33
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You need better mirrors.
i'm glad that won't be on the road with u

the nature of all vehicles with mirrors is that there are blind spots

i have driven all sorts of trucks etc.

when i'm teacheing someone to ride/drive whatever

is that i walk around the vehicle showing them the blind spots

the same thing with ur silly mirrors

u will miss a pedestrian crossing the rd in front of u

silly daky man lol
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:44 PM   #34
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WTF. You are supposed to do a head check while driving to clear your blindspot. One of the more scary near-hits I experienced was some idiot in a van who changed lanes without headchecking while I was in the process of rolling past on a two lane highway.

If you are not regularly checking your blindspot before changing lanes while driving, I hope we never share the same street.
This.

Signal.
Mirror.
Shoulder Check
Move.

Every time. This thread is kinda strange. This is how you are supposed to drive EVERTHING. Mirrors lie and cars/trucks are big.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:57 PM   #35
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This.
Mirrors lie
How can mirrors lie?

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:05 PM   #36
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I always head check.

About half of that is habit from riding, the other half is that I drive a 19 foot long truck its pretty easy to lose that dipshit in the Civic that is riding right next to your rear wheel, and you won't see them in the mirror.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:17 PM   #37
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How can mirrors lie?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects...an_they_appear

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It is present because while these mirrors' convexity gives them a useful field of view, it also makes objects appear smaller. Since smaller-appearing objects seem farther away than they actually are, a driver might make a maneuver such as a lane change assuming an adjacent vehicle is a safe distance behind, when in fact it is quite a bit closer
Any more simple questions I can clear up? ;)
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:20 PM   #38
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Seems to be telling the truth there.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #39
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If you have proper mirrors there are no blind spots.
Just a reminder................

Not true for semi trucks, and 10X worse with multi trailer sets, especially on curves, more blind spots than not.

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:49 PM   #40
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Seems to be telling the truth there.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:22 PM   #41
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That would vary from vehicle to vehicle but you can have a 360 degree field of view without a shoulder check.

By way of example I had one of these in one of my cages back in the day.

I used to have one of those in a pickup; it worked well. In my car, it'd give me a cool view of the rear corners of the Miata's soft-top!

Won't do dooky for improving my view of what's outside the car though.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:06 PM   #42
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How many folks have smacked their knuckles off of the window whilst trying to wave at a passing bike?
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:35 AM   #43
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How many folks have smacked their knuckles off of the window whilst trying to wave at a passing bike?
Sorry I don't have the OCD desire to frantically wave at everything with two wheels
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:49 AM   #44
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I do the head check all the time..............I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one.
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:54 AM   #45
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That would vary from vehicle to vehicle but you can have a 360 degree field of view without a shoulder check.

By way of example I had one of these in one of my cages back in the day.

So in reality you would need two of these...one each, to see the side and back of each side of the vehicle. Then you would need something to see out the windshield with all the crap blocking it.
Face it, everybody else who has posted recommends to turn your head to check what is on your back side(s) and so does the DMV. Here's what's Oregon's DMV manual. Pay special attention to the last sentence...


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Blind Spot
If you are changing lanes, preparing to pass another vehicle, or entering traffic, signal and check for passing traffic by first using your mirrors. Once the mirrors reveal safe conditions for the lane change, check your vehicle’s blind spot by glancing over your shoulder to the rear in the direction of the lane change. Be especially alert for bicycles and motorcycles as they are narrower than most other vehicles and can’t be easily seen.
Page 57-58

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TS/docs/p...iverManual.pdf

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TS/docs/p...iverManual.pdf



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