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Old 03-06-2013, 04:25 PM   #1
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Elite 150 Clutch Springs HELP!!!

So did I totally blow it on this one. I got my scoot to start up and had it idling pretty rough but its a start right! So I didn't see the clutch cover come off but when I went to reassemble the clutch pads they are totally stretched and I can't get them to go back on with the case over it.

1.Do I need new Springs?
2.Do I need a whole new assembly?
3. Is there a way to rig this up to work?

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Old 03-06-2013, 07:12 PM   #2
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It depends on how bad the clutch pads are . If there's lots left you could buy springs for it for 15 bucks and rebuild it . Lots of videos on youtube about rebuilding a scooter clutch. Involves compressing the main spring in there and taking it apart. But really It's only 70 bucks for a new china clone clutch. Once you start working on it your going to have to buy a new belt for 20 to 30 bucks for non honda parts. Once you open it all up you should just take the clutch and varator off . Do the rollers . They only 20 bucks to buy. If you don't have an impact air gun to take the bolts off you ll also have to make a holding tool out some bolts and flat iron stock. I m thinking what happened is just salt air and age getting to it. Also drain the tran oil and replace it. The link for the oem service manual should show you how to do that.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #3
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One of the videos on how to disassemble the clutch is mine... this isn't a terribly difficult job, but it's one of those "while you're in this far, you might wanna do this at the same time" jobs. You'll want to disassemble the spindle with an impact gun (electric or air), clean all parts as best you can, replace the spindle (which includes new bearings and seals... honda sells this part to make a full clutch rebuild easier), throw on new springs and rubber dampers, and that'll get you going again. The pads look good.

If you don't want to spend the money on a new spindle, that's OK... just try to pack new moly grease into the freewheel bearings, and the collar itself. At a minimum, replace the springs and rubber dampers (the rubber collars that the pads rest against when disengaged). Pads look healthy, just give 'em a light sanding.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:30 PM   #4
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Ok, thanks for your help guys. I went to my honda place here on island and they didn't have any springs. So I'll have to order some online I guess. Where can I order the whole assembly? I mean the chinese one your referring too. eBay? So stoked I got this thing running today, hopefully with a good carb cleaning it will start purring a little smoother.

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PS What kind of springs should I order, are there aftermarket kinds that fit the same as the Original honda ones?
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:31 PM   #5
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You are getting some good help here, but you should look at www.ch250.net where there is a list of tech tips from the ch250 group on Yahoo. The 150 and the 250 are mechanically very similar and all the ideas and techniques there are perfect for your job. The clutches are not interchangeable, so far as I know. You can write to jack@jacksscootershop.com and see if he has parts to sell.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:09 AM   #6
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You are getting some good help here, but you should look at www.ch250.net where there is a list of tech tips from the ch250 group on Yahoo. The 150 and the 250 are mechanically very similar and all the ideas and techniques there are perfect for your job. The clutches are not interchangeable, so far as I know. You can write to jack@jacksscootershop.com and see if he has parts to sell.
Thanks for the advice Wentwest I'll for sure check out the ch250 website. Looks like it has lots of help. I ordered some Springs for a Chinese 150cc today, they are for 1000rpm I think. Hopefully I can get those bad boys on there and clean the carb tomorrow for some better sounding results. I can't believe I got this thing to idle today. Resurrection is moving forward!
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:29 PM   #7
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Yahoo has a ch150 group if you google for it. Also google honda ch150 forum .
vido for clutch rebuild . basicly the same stuff even if it's an helix . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx8IHTT-ZlA
Walk through for ch250 rebuild which next to the parts used is the same thing . http://www.ch250.net/techtips/

For ebay here a set of shocks that look good but does anyone know if the cb350 shock works on the elite 150 to? http://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-ch150-...item2328cadeb6

Drive belt is Standard CVT Drive Belt 799-19-28 size . I believe gy6 scooter belt of this size will work.

Ask for spring ask around the non honda shops that sell china , kymo or sym etc scooters. Someone might have something that works. If honda doesn't know where to get them see these guys.
Spring are 3 bucks each. Turn out I was wrong about china clone clutches. They never ever clone them I think . Bike band it will sell you part if you can't find them else where.
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1986-honda-elite-150-deluxe-ch150d/o/m10720#sch43681

Roller info is here : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521283


To take the clutch and drive face off Look here for DIY tools walk through
http://www.nyscooterclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14593

Here one guys cluch spring compression tool http://www.rhinoforums.net/how/24896...ompressor.html
Think this would work but really I ve never use or done it before.




Also email these guys about the clutch , belt and new rollers . ww.scrappydogscooters.com


Also google shopping
http://www.google.com/search?q=CLUTC...w=1440&bih=664


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