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Old 02-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #31
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FPGT72's workshop/garage may work well for him and have been economical to build and own but that interior shows exactly why a design pro should be involved. It's a shame that your hostile surroundings require you to work in a military prison cell.

Meeting physical requirements and purely practical enclosures do not a great building make.
I live out in the boonies, there really is no one around....13ac with my neighbors about 1/4 mile away in every direction....they even have keys to it. While I am in there I love it, don't know if in the pics it shows but it has 4 pretty big speakers and I have been known to get the place a-rockin

But I just did not want the windows....for one thing I am a klutz and know I would bust them....but eveyone is right there is no such thing as too much light. I have 6 x 8' double tubes and that is not enough light...this summer I am adding more. The AC is also a little small for the space, I should have bought a little larger unit....I may add a second this summer as well.

My son's bowflex took the spot for my tube bender, and I did have some stuff in there from the other barn....we also have a 40x60 that the tractors and such are stored in, and a 3 sided one that is about 30x40 for the disc, plow and that kind of stuff.

The one thing I would remind you about skylights, or the clear pannels used on barns and such....they do crack, and leak....I had to pull all of them out of the big barn and just use regular lights.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:27 PM   #32
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:11 AM   #33
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Here's my 32'X48' two story garage. It is a post construction with 6" walls. It has a 12/12 pitch roof and a 16X48 room on the second floor. I have a 100,000 BTU 40' radiant furnace hanging from the 14' high ceiling. I keep it at 50deg when not working out there and my gas bill is usually between $40 and $100.

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Old 02-16-2013, 08:17 AM   #34
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Light ,light and more light. I have a 80 x 40 x 16 shop . 6 x6 post w/batt insulation metal skin 6' concrete floor with a 11,000 lb hoist. tall ceilings with hanging lights are ok but you will need lights lower along the wall or portable job lights. put in twice as many 110 plugs as you think you need, same with air outlets.
plan a small office space with a door to keep dust and garage stuff from migrating into it. Put motion sensor lights or some switched lights so you don't have to turn on the overheads on a trip to grab something .
I lined the lower sides w/ 1/2 chip board painted white to keep sparks and crap off the insulation.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:53 AM   #35
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Plan for the garage door, I know it seems insignificant, but with the style roof you seem to be using the side clearance gets tighter as you go up the wall, this will effect the amount of lift you can use. You'll want to use a lift clearance or high-lift door especially if you want to use a lift in there (have seen people raise a lift when the door was open and the door did not fair well).

Buy the best garage door you can afford. Two sided steel doors are heavier insulated, stronger, and the light will reflect off the painted steel well and help with lighting. The money saved now on a cheap door will be lost in heat, and replacing it much sooner.

Drive through shops are great, nothing worse than having to move 5 projects to get the mower out.

No garage has enough outlets, ever

Very few garages have enough light, though lights high on the sidewalls are great for working of cars.

If you are anything like me, you spend alot of time on the slab, under projects, heated slabs are a godsend, especially in January.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:32 PM   #36
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Our garage is city-sized, not much bigger than the two cars. The one thing I've done that worked well was to line to walls (now all the way around) with 1/4" pegboard, with 4" shelves above. Now I have all the tools and "stuff" on the walls where I can find it.

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:06 AM   #37
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Carport only

Just in case your not appreciating your big garages I want to show you how the bottom feeders do it .

I do have a workshop out back that the bikes live in but on the weekend I leave the ride of choice out in the carport .
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:17 AM   #38
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I suggest you visit someone with a garage that is heated with in-slab radiant heat. You know the feeling of coming home, cold from being outside, and standing over a nice warm woodstove ? AAHHHHH.
Radiant is the only way to heat a garage !
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:39 AM   #39
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Here's my 32'X48' two story garage. It is a post contstruction with 6" walls. It has a 12/12 pitch roof and a 16X48 room on the second floor. I have a 100,000 BTU 40' radiant furnace hanging from the 14' high ceiling. I keep it at 50deg when not working out there and my gas bill is usually between $40 and $100.



THat's just awesome! Can we see the inside?
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:00 AM   #40
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THat's just awesome! Can we see the inside?

Here's a pic from a couple years ago. Too much stuff, need a bigger garage.


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Old 02-24-2013, 07:28 AM   #41
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A standard american garage is 2 cars, and approximately 20' x20', clearly, not really big enough for anything. And here's my dilemma!

My wife and I are having a much smaller home, on a much smaller lot built so that we can achieve a mortgageless future. We can't fit a traditional 3 wide three car garage due to the setback regulations and such, but, a I can do a garage thats 21' wide, and 30' deep! the same overall dimensions of a regular three car garage, but with only a 2 car door, and super deep.

What do you think my issues/problems/challenges will be making this work for me, my three bikes, my two cars, my workbench and all my shelving? I really don't have much choice in the size, but how I put my shit in there IS up to me.

Any one else have a similar space?
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:27 AM   #42
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A standard american garage is 2 cars, and approximately 20' x20', clearly, not really big enough for anything. And here's my dilemma!

My wife and I are having a much smaller home, on a much smaller lot built so that we can achieve a mortgageless future. We can't fit a traditional 3 wide three car garage due to the setback regulations and such, but, a I can do a garage thats 21' wide, and 30' deep! the same overall dimensions of a regular three car garage, but with only a 2 car door, and super deep.

What do you think my issues/problems/challenges will be making this work for me, my three bikes, my two cars, my workbench and all my shelving? I really don't have much choice in the size, but how I put my shit in there IS up to me.

Any one else have a similar space?
To put it in perspective, I succesfully fit two cars (small ones) two bikes, all my tools, a decent workbench, two spare sets of wheels/tires for one of the cars, and some assorted garage crap in an 18' x 20' garage. Both bikes and one of the cars are always available without moving anything else. One bike is parked between the cars, and the other is behind the car is driven less. When I want to drive that car, I simpy roll the bike behind the other car. Easy.

If I had an extra ten feet of depth! Wow! What I could do with that room. You should pretty easily be able to fit all your stuff in your proposed space.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:35 AM   #43
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A standard american garage is 2 cars, and approximately 20' x20', clearly, not really big enough for anything. And here's my dilemma!

My wife and I are having a much smaller home, on a much smaller lot built so that we can achieve a mortgageless future. We can't fit a traditional 3 wide three car garage due to the setback regulations and such, but, a I can do a garage thats 21' wide, and 30' deep! the same overall dimensions of a regular three car garage, but with only a 2 car door, and super deep.

What do you think my issues/problems/challenges will be making this work for me, my three bikes, my two cars, my workbench and all my shelving? I really don't have much choice in the size, but how I put my shit in there IS up to me.

Any one else have a similar space?
Build a garage similar to the one a few posts back with living accommodation above it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:45 AM   #44
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Do yourself a huge favor - hire a local architect! There are plenty out there like myself who can design and draw a garage for you that takes your unique requirements and desires into account. A simple garage design w/ construction drawings can be done for $1k. That will be one of the less expensive components - don't skip it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:02 AM   #45
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I have a one car here, it's only 12' wide and 20 feet deep, with a 9x7 door. A couple bikes and tools, hell I can barely walk through. I hate having to do major work outside. Buying a house next, garage is a must have, or at least room for a shed 24 x 32.
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