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Old 02-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #16
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About damn time some US automakers started offering smaller diesels in a pickup. Not everybody needs 800+ ft.lbs of torque - and the 15 mpg that goes with it.
Did you read about the new Dodge 3500. They've beefed up the transmission, frame, suspension and boosted the Cummins to 850 ft.lbs. The Dodge's trailing rating is 30,000lbs which is 6900lbs more than its nearest competitor. That's not the combined weight mind you, that's just the trailer weight. I wonder when they're going to start building these "1 ton" pickups with air brakes.

Back on topic. I didn't see tow ratings for the 1500. I'm guessing it's no different than the gas version, but would be nice to know. Sounds like it'll be a sweet truck.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:58 PM   #17
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price? hard to beat an old 7.3 IDI in 3/4 ton F250 approaching close to 20mpg...
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:06 PM   #18
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Isn't that the company that put the little 4 cylinder diesel in the Jeep Patriot? I looked long and hard at those - but there were so many problem reports on the web that I kinda got scared away. I wonder how the V6 version is doing in the GC.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:20 PM   #19
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In what parallel universe is this a "small truck"?
In the universe where men use thier pickups for working. The universe where a 3/4-ton is the entry level truck that can do the job of pulling trailers full of horses or cows or tractors or round bales or construction tools.

In this universe:


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Old 02-14-2013, 08:25 PM   #20
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I case you all are curious about the motor. Here is some of the goodies.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/V6/VM-RA-diesel.html
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:25 PM   #21
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I case you all are curious about the motor. Here is some of the goodies.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/V6/VM-RA-diesel.html
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:27 PM   #22
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Going from gas to diesel is like Anakin Skywalker turning to the dark side. Quote "You don't know the power of the dark side" Substitute "torque for dark side".

I've been in the dark since 07 with my Duramax and will never go back. Ram has/will hit a home run with this truck if it is priced right and hits 30 mpg on the highway. My pig 2500HD will get 20 at 80mph fully loaded with imperial stormtroopers running the a/c.

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Old 02-14-2013, 08:55 PM   #23
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Some of us enjoy that sort of thing...
Don't get me wrong, I like to shift my own gears too.
But they put that 8 speed in there for a reason, and my guess is efficiency. Even a 6 speed stick wouldn't keep the engine in its happy place like that 8 speed, and anything higher or lower than the sweet spot won't yield the best MPG.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:28 PM   #24
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"Crankcase capacity is 7.7 L (2 gal)."

hot damn, hopefully there's long oil change intervals
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:05 AM   #25
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I agree. The 6-speed manual would make this a really attractive small truck. It will probably be offered the second or third year of the model.
Not likely. unfortunatly sticks are becoming very endangered. with manufacturares having to produce such high fuel economy and low emissions the only way is to yeild as much control as possible to the cars electronic overlords.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:19 AM   #26
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Duh..... Our "cutting edge" country is finally going to start getting light diesels...HOraaY!
These smaller diesels have been the NORM all over Europe for decades. We have been denined for years for no apparent reason.

If you rent a car anywhere in the E.U. (that means European Union for those who only know about what happens in the world via NBC,CBS,ABC,and Fox), it will most likely be a diesel that gets @ least 35mpg.

Thanks Dodge/ RAM for opening the curtain to us (U.S.)
Exactly...the US has hosed us on diesel for 10 years. We are number 1...not.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:38 AM   #27
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"Crankcase capacity is 7.7 L (2 gal)."

hot damn, hopefully there's long oil change intervals
That's on the low end of oil capacity for a diesel...

but ya, with synthetic I'm sure you can easily get 10,000 mile intervals.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:43 AM   #28
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That's on the low end of oil capacity for a diesel...

but ya, with synthetic I'm sure you can easily get 10,000 mile intervals.
My 11 F350 holds 13-14 quarts and the oil monitor tells me to change it around 7500 miles. Hardest part of the oil change is not taking an oil shower when you pull the drain plug...which, BTW is a 1/4 turn deal that you can loosen with your hands.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:02 PM   #29
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I case you all are curious about the motor. Here is some of the goodies.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/V6/VM-RA-diesel.html
So if I read that correctly, VM_Motori used to be owned by Detroit Diesel and is now half owned by General Motors and Fiat...

That in turn means that a GM motor (or at least half GM motor) is going into a Dodge which is now, I guess, a Fiat...

WOW...this multinational stuff is TOUGH!
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:33 PM   #30
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Another review of the engine, with lots of pics and short write-ups of the components:

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1...diesel_engine/
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