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Old 05-08-2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:54 PM   #2
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Haha, I see what you did there....great thread title, I "got it" instantly.

Jerry will continue to wrap his head in aluminum foil, and rest assured his carburetors and non-abs brakes are safe from digital intrusion.


The rest of us however, need be scared, very scared 😎
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:10 PM   #3
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Haha, I see what you did there....great thread title, I "got it" instantly.

Jerry will continue to wrap his head in aluminum foil, and rest assured his carburetors and non-abs brakes are safe from digital intrusion.


The rest of us however, need be scared, very scared 😎
You do however, need be scared, very scared Becasue the Car makers are trying to Copyritght the software on the computer / fuel injection. Why ? So it becomes a crime to Hack it , make it run better etc. IF they get away with it your custom shop will get sued etc. It's been in the news in the last 2 months.
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Old 05-09-2015, 06:18 AM   #4
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You do however, need be scared, very scared Becasue the Car makers are trying to Copyritght the software on the computer / fuel injection. Why ? So it becomes a crime to Hack it , make it run better etc. IF they get away with it your custom shop will get sued etc. It's been in the news in the last 2 months.
I dont have a "custom shop".....carwise I buy simple* anymore , and leave OEM.

That said there IS legislation afoot to make it a crime to do certain work on cars, except for authorized brand dealers. But that'll never happen....the aftermarket industry is too big. I aint worried for me, or anyone else.

If modifying a car is a crime, only criminals will have laptops, right? Wrong.

*for the record, while I'm "no Jerry" I prefer a simpler more basic vehicle too, I just dont make a religion out of it nor do I believe electrons and bytes are the devil's spawn, as does he.
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:22 PM   #5
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I prefer a simpler vehicle because I understand it and I can work on it. I can rebuild a carburetor, but I can not work on electronics. Maybe I'm too old.

What this shows is that there's a real problem, and that the automakers are not really hurrying to deal with it. This guy programmed the Ford so that it shut down when he called it on his cell phone. Could builders program in that sort of feature and give access to law enforcement? Rental car companies, car loan companies, even parents of teenagers would use this feature. Pretty soon the same people who scream about government interference with the marketplace will be screaming for government regulation of remote auto control.
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Old 05-09-2015, 03:04 PM   #6
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Could builders program in that sort of feature and give access to law enforcement?
They already do that. It's been around for at least a few years. I think GM was the first.
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They already do that. It's been around for at least a few years. I think GM was the first.
yes, the On-Star system
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With this liability will be on the mfg. once it is fully autonomous

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...h#.VU7rLmYm07A
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:52 AM   #9
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I understand some Insurance company are giving you a discount if you let them install a black box add on that lets them read the computer and tell them what your doing when you drive. Eg hit something and your car computer knows if your were braking , hit the gas etc.
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Old 05-11-2015, 08:40 AM   #10
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I understand some Insurance company are giving you a discount if you let them install a black box add on that lets them read the computer and tell them what your doing when you drive. Eg hit something and your car computer knows if your were braking , hit the gas etc.
I believe Progressive was the first. It's voluntary now, but don't be surprised if Big Brother makes it mandatory sooner, rather than later. I've read that not everyone who uses these gets lower rates.

There is also a list of vehicles online which have the black boxes from the factory to record what happens just before an accident. I lost the link, but when I find it I will post it.
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the bigger cruisers (GW, etc) have them or soon will.
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I'm gonna buy stock in Reynolds aluminum
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