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Old 02-18-2013, 11:34 AM   #16
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OK, here's the current and proposed rates:
http://www.sgi.sk.ca/pdf/rateproposa...rcycles_LV.pdf

It does appear that big sport bikes will be pressed on hard. As well cruisers. IMO, these 2 catagory of bikes do seem to attract the greatest amount of incompetant riders,,,,namely squidly nutbar sportbike dudes, and wannabe, biker gang hopefull dudes returning to riding after raising their kids. I say bring it on if it will prevent losers from entering the serious motorcycle fraternity.
BTW, the proposed rates do not appear to be any more expensive than BC.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:26 PM   #17
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Perhaps for clarification, we could all see what Saskatchewan riders are going to be faced with????

Me .....with a SGI +18 safety rating and a 20% discount (which is the maximum).

2009 Ducati Multistrada

OLD= $50 registration fee + ($2,024 insurance premium (complete SGI no fault coverage) - 20% discount) = $1,669 for 12 months

PROPOSED = $50 registration fee + ($4,298 insurance premium (complete SGI no fault coverage) - 20% discount) = $3,488.40 for 12 months

INCREASE = ($3488.40-$1669)/$1669 = 109% increase



2007 BMW F650 Dakar


OLD= $50 registration fee + ($1,192 insurance premium (complete SGI no fault coverage) - 20% discount) = $1,003.00 for 12 months

PROPOSED = $50 registration fee + ($1,666 insurance premium (complete SGI no fault coverage) - 20% discount) = $1382.80 for 12 months

INCREASE = ($31382.80-$1003.00)/$1003.00 = 38% increase



If register them for 4 months (the best months in Saskatchewan when snow is minimal) in 2014 it will cost me:

BMW= ~$494.27
Ducati= ~$1,196.13
TOTAL = $1,690.40 for 4 months for 2 bikes of which I can only ride one at a time.

This will hurt, but if you don't have the 20% discount..... it will hurt much much more.

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Old 02-18-2013, 12:55 PM   #18
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Looking at the rate sheet now... what you don't want to own is a newer CBR 250 type bike. Those rates are going up about 300%. Zing.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:47 PM   #19
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Wow. And without collision coverage.
Forgot to add to that $1652 the license fee, and plate fee.........
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:08 PM   #20
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That is fucked, I thought BC was bad...
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:41 AM   #21
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I see that Canadian Press is on the story now, so this is good.

http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald...3-dd647c780800

Hopefully, industry and / or other stakeholder groups will hire a statistician, get SGI's statistics, and crunch the numbers. A freedom of information application may be part of that process. But I doubt if that will happen.

An acquaintance of mine is a professional accident investigator and consultant, a graduate of Northwestern University in Illinois. He told me that the average police officer gets very little training in accident investigation, and the result is that accident reporting in general, is poor.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:45 AM   #22
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Comeplete bullshit. We need to get rid of SGI here, the stranglehold they have on us residents is getting to be too much.

The proposed hike so far has come with no solid facts or anything to back it up.

Typical of them though, saskpower and saskenergy are no better.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:32 AM   #23
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We need to get rid of SGI...preppypyro
And here I had the impression that the Wall government was more amenable to private initiative.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:43 AM   #24
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These are the rates handed done from the Quebec provincial overloard!

http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/vehicl..._cost/moto.php



Check out the rates for what the overloard call's high risk! Then check out his deffinition of a high risk motercycle.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:07 AM   #25
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Ouch, that stings! I pay around $715 a year for full coverage on a 2011 Monster 796 with one ticket in the last 10 years. If my insurance went to over $3000+ I'd be getting rid of the bike and sticking to the KTM offroad. That's rediculous and I hope you guys don't end up with that kind of deal.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:13 AM   #26
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The other thing the insurance companies seem to be ignoring is the fact that 95% of motorcycle owners in Canada are also paying car insurance at the same time as bike insurance, but not driving their cars. In effect, the increased premium is already there and covered by the bike owner paying insurance twice, while only driving one vehicle at a time. By their logic, I should be able to get a break on my full coverage policy on my truck that sits, (fully insured) in a locked garage all summer while I'm out on my bike. For 6+ months a year my truck is my "toy" while I ride my bike to work, on errands and while I'm travelling.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:50 AM   #27
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Check out the rates for ... high risk... WildanCrazymtl
Their power to weight spec would put even my R1200ST into that category.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:15 PM   #28
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SGI says riders in Sask have been subsidized by other drivers for years. I think I'll call around to other provinces and price shop my Vstrom tomorrow, just to see.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ates-1301.html
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OK, here's the current and proposed rates:
http://www.sgi.sk.ca/pdf/rateproposa...rcycles_LV.pdf

It does appear that big sport bikes will be pressed on hard. As well cruisers. IMO, these 2 catagory of bikes do seem to attract the greatest amount of incompetant riders,,,,namely squidly nutbar sportbike dudes, and wannabe, biker gang hopefull dudes returning to riding after raising their kids. I say bring it on if it will prevent losers from entering the serious motorcycle fraternity.
BTW, the proposed rates do not appear to be any more expensive than BC.
So in Saskatchewan it would cost me $7797/year to insure my 450 "Dirt Bike with Plates", a 650 dual sport and a 1050cc sport bike that costs me ~$950 in Alberta for all three (albeit without full coverage on the 450 and 650 but what is the point of having full coverage on these?)

If I was a Saskatchewan "resident" I would be having a mailing address / legal "Place of Residence" on the Alberta side of Lloydminster...
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:29 PM   #29
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OK, here's the current and proposed rates:
http://www.sgi.sk.ca/pdf/rateproposa...rcycles_LV.pdf

It does appear that big sport bikes will be pressed on hard. As well cruisers. IMO, these 2 catagory of bikes do seem to attract the greatest amount of incompetant riders,,,,namely squidly nutbar sportbike dudes, and wannabe, biker gang hopefull dudes returning to riding after raising their kids. I say bring it on if it will prevent losers from entering the serious motorcycle fraternity.
BTW, the proposed rates do not appear to be any more expensive than BC.
Just to make sure I got this right, The above prices are for...Registration only or registration and insurance?

In Quebec the Overloard extortes me for around $650 for the privilige of using the crappy roads for about 6 months and a liability for our no fault insurance on any damage I might do to persons. Then I have to insure the bike for damage to others (property, no choice ) and I also insure my ride (my choice) for a total of around $350. So around a grand before paying for my permision to drive. You pay extra for the privilage of riding a motorcycle. Minimum price is around $135 but can cost over $400.

http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.php Here is the SAAQ's link if anyone cares

Ps. I am 47 with a perfect driving record on a 2009 1200GS
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:59 AM   #30
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For those of you who do the facebook thing here is a group that has organized

https://www.facebook.com/groups/248400351962414/
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