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Old 02-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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50mm suspension kit for ABS 990?

As some of may know, KTM sells a 50mm suspension lift kit in their powerparts catalog however they state that its for non-abs equipped bikes only. Does anyone know why and has anyone used this on a newer 990 adv such as a 2012?

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Old 02-23-2013, 06:16 AM   #2
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #3
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:42 PM   #4
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:37 PM   #5
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Ahhh i´m drunk.

You should provide the link as i don´t knovv vvhich product you refering to.

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Old 02-23-2013, 02:44 PM   #6
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Since the KTM website sucks, here is the same kit from ktmtwins:

http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-...suspension-kit

Sorry, it's actually a 55mm increase. I through a leg over a new standard 2012 990 adv today and I'm shocked to learn that it's actually lower than my 2004 950 adv. I'm looking to replace my 950 with a new 990 and I can't seem to find any 990Rs left so I thought I'd get a standard one and raise it with this kit but alas...it claims to be incompatible with ABS equipped bikes.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:56 PM   #7
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I vvould say that more stroke on these bikes vvith the right valving should make it perfect for the more racing offroad. Though if you ride it more roadish, it vvould be better of vvith the right valving.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:53 PM   #8
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The ABS bikes are low. In order to Raise the LOWER bikes you may also need to replace the chrome sliders as they may be too short and not allow the extra height. I'd check a micro fiche to make sure.

The earlier 950 std and 950 S had different tubes. I have no idea about the newer 990.

For example:

See item #51/52 - ABS bike
http://www.southeastsales.com/fiche_...12&fveh=137500
AXLE CLAMP LEFT ADV. CPL. 09
48600872S1

AXLE CLAMP RIGHT ADV. CPL. 09
48600873S1
1$422.49



1$388.49


Really stinks you can't just buy the tube, at least what I could find in a quick search.

You may also need to modify the side stand and center stand, unless a longer one that comes stock on the bike is an option from KTM.

Going this tall WITH ABS may be a liability thing for KTM, I don't know for sure.

Notice that all the NEW 1190 ADVs are VERY LOW. Lower than the current 990 bikes.

You may also have to make, or replace all brake lines and wiring with longer parts as the LOWER bike parts can't be stretched that far.

Just my thoughts off the top of my head.

Send me an ABS bikes and the kit and I'll see what I can do.....

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Old 02-24-2013, 01:37 AM   #9
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I believe brake lines are setting the limits. Also sidestand and center stand will need some lengthening.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:18 AM   #10
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Have a look at this thread

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=859977
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Have a look at this thread

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=859977

Hm.. in my memories this thread used to be longer, some guys explaining how the raise in the suspension affect the performance of the ABS.. but I can't find it in the thread anymore..
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weren't pre 2009 990/950 fork internals different than post 2009?

I'm aware that later non S 950 models are 210 mm, and 990 ABS are also 210mm, however i think i've read somewhere, that post 2009 (or something close), the internals were different for the ABS 210 models thus required other parts not fully interchangeable with pre 2009 non S models.

Think i've seen this discussed in another thread that i can't find now.

also this kit now on sale by KTM, was long awaited, however does not seem to be possible to choose different spring rates..
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weren't pre 2009 990/950 fork internals different than post 2009?

I'm aware that later non S 950 models are 210 mm, and 990 ABS are also 210mm, however i think i've read somewhere, that post 2009 (or something close), the internals were different for the ABS 210 models thus required other parts not fully interchangeable with pre 2009 non S models.

Think i've seen this discussed in another thread that i can't find now.

also this kit now on sale by KTM, was long awaited, however does not seem to be possible to choose different spring rates..
The kit offered by KTM is literally comprised of the parts different on a current 990R versus the 990 Standard. No choices of spring rates but I've ridden a 990R ad love the setup it comes with for my riding. I'm tall and I want that extra travel. I'm also likely to go with a 19/17 setup which will bring it back down a bit and likely take care of the centre and side stand issue - Yes, I am aware that centre and side stands will be short once the bike is raised but I just don't understand KTM's disclaimer with respect to ABS equipped bikes.
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Hm.. in my memories this thread used to be longer, some guys explaining how the raise in the suspension affect the performance of the ABS.. but I can't find it in the thread anymore..
This link supports my suspicion: KTM did not test / homologate the "taller" bike with ABS - I'm hoping there's no technical reason for "no ABS" for this kit.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:20 AM   #15
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The ABS bikes are low. In order to Raise the LOWER bikes you may also need to replace the chrome sliders as they may be too short and not allow the extra height. I'd check a micro fiche to make sure.

The earlier 950 std and 950 S had different tubes. I have no idea about the newer 990.

For example:

See item #51/52 - ABS bike
http://www.southeastsales.com/fiche_...12&fveh=137500
AXLE CLAMP LEFT ADV. CPL. 09
48600872S1

AXLE CLAMP RIGHT ADV. CPL. 09
48600873S1
1$422.49






1$388.49


Really stinks you can't just buy the tube, at least what I could find in a quick search.

You may also need to modify the side stand and center stand, unless a longer one that comes stock on the bike is an option from KTM.

Going this tall WITH ABS may be a liability thing for KTM, I don't know for sure.

Notice that all the NEW 1190 ADVs are VERY LOW. Lower than the current 990 bikes.

You may also have to make, or replace all brake lines and wiring with longer parts as the LOWER bike parts can't be stretched that far.

Just my thoughts off the top of my head.

Send me an ABS bikes and the kit and I'll see what I can do.....

Good luck.

This is the first time I head of the chrome tubes being longer, and I don't think that is correct. I have quite a few disassembled forks in the garage including LC8s and they are all the same, except the newer (06+?) chrome tubes are a bit tapered on top.

The longer internals should fit perfectly in any 950/990 ADV/SE set of forks. The would also fit inside all other 48mm open cartridge fork tubes from KTM dirt bikes, but those have shorter upper tubes, so you have less overlap and less support.
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