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Old 02-25-2013, 07:09 PM   #1
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Need Help - Oil Change IN PROCESS!

Hi,
Need some live play by play help!

Silly question - Does the oil drain plug on the bottom of the engine loosen to the left or right?

I figure it is normal left to loosen thread but it won't budge!! and I would hate to force it the wrong way.

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Old 02-25-2013, 07:13 PM   #2
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Never mind
Actually needed impact to get it loose!
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:14 PM   #3
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lefty loose

normal righty tighty, lefty losse
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:30 PM   #4
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Careful on the reinstall, these are easily stripped. Check the owners manual for the spec
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM   #5
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Maybe you shouldn't be changing your own oil
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:12 AM   #6
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Yeah no impact. Next time hit the back of the wench with your palm, it should break it loose and not break it. Also it had a crush washer so you don't need to wrench on it, a little RTV wouldn't hurt either.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:17 AM   #7
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Maybe you shouldn't be changing your own oil
I called it! I think I actually just won a bet with a buddy!
I said, man I hate asking silly questions but better safe than a broken bolt. I bet someone comes back telling me to take it to the shop or something!

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Old 02-26-2013, 12:19 AM   #8
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Yeah no impact. Next time hit the back of the wench with your palm, it should break it loose and not break it. Also it had a crush washer so you don't need to wrench on it, a little RTV wouldn't hurt either.
I agree on the no impact.

This is a fairly new to me bike and first time I have done the oil on it. Apparently the last time it was done the drain bolt was really tightened!

The impact broke it loose but a standard socket put it back.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:57 AM   #9
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First oil change I did on my own I had a long pipe on the wrench to break free the plug, autorized dealers you know!

Since I have used a torque wrench and never had a problem!

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #10
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Silly little thing, and not directed at anyone at all but, academically speaking, perspective is critical whenever you advise someone "right-tighty". It's a round bolt with circular movement. Concepts of right and left provide no help; if wrench is on the bolt at 6 o'clock position and you move your handle to the left, you are tightening. If at 12 o'clock and you move it left, you are loosening.

A better description would be clockwise ("righty-tighty") and anti-clockwise (or counter clockwise) ("lefty-loosey")--and always when facing the bolt.

If you are lying under the bike looking up at the drain plug, then yes, counter-clockwise to loosen. If you are sitting up, reaching under, then your perspective looking down is clockwise to loosen.


PS - Don't forget crush washer when you re-install. I did once. Once.

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Old 02-26-2013, 10:58 AM   #11
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A better description would be clockwise ("righty-tighty") and anti-clockwise (or counter clockwise) ("lefty-loosey")--and always when facing the bolt.
This.

Then again, when faced with undue / unexpected resistance, I would have come calling on my specialized-knowledge-equipped OC buddies too.

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Old 02-26-2013, 11:14 PM   #12
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My general thought: The plug may have been installed on a warm day and/or warm engine. Aluminum & add in a little gorilla arm and - stuck.

I am a big fan of anti-seize, but anti-seize acts as a lubricant (there are torque de-rate multiplier numbers out there, unique for each brand/model), so you have to be reasonable when you tighten bolts. Crush washers help in that instance.

Do the KTM drain plugs come with a magnet? Eventually installed one in my Triumph. Cheap insurance.
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