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Old 02-26-2013, 11:50 AM   #1
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Hybrid front fender (half road/half dirt)

The few occasions I had mud issues . . . It was packing mostly under the front part of the fender. I didn't want the after market high fender fork guards . . . They tend to flap around a bit.

I cut the front OEM fender off from the fork guards and bolted up a spare SM fender . . . Which was a direct fit with full radiator guard clearance. This fender was only until I ordered a SE fender . . . Which has more clearance etc.

A hard hit would only cause the tip of the SM fender to flex upward . . . Not locking up the wheel.









Yes, a second brake line is a much better way to go. I added it to my order today:

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Old 02-26-2013, 12:07 PM   #2
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I replaced the brake line and used the stock fender "Legs" on mine.


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Old 02-26-2013, 06:35 PM   #3
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Looks great man, that SM fender makes for nice lines (considering... )

I wouldn't go "all in" chasing mud with that set-up however. Here's some sticky stuff from Montana that grounded us over night because of this 950's stock brake lines. The low fender has been completely removed in the field by this time and if you look close you can see that the right caliper has been removed and strapped up on the forks, and the lines are STILL getting pulled apart by the mud. (Guy in red is trying to hold them out of the way as we fight for inches of progress)



The best answer is to re-route those lines and run a high fender! Finding out the hard way sucks...

I do love the rally looks of the low fender though. Your hybrid looks pretty sweet!
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:28 AM   #4
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Looks great man, that SM fender makes for nice lines (considering... )

I wouldn't go "all in" chasing mud with that set-up however. Here's some sticky stuff from Montana that grounded us over night because of this 950's stock brake lines. The low fender has been completely removed in the field by this time and if you look close you can see that the right caliper has been removed and strapped up on the forks, and the lines are STILL getting pulled apart by the mud. (Guy in red is trying to hold them out of the way as we fight for inches of progress)



The best answer is to re-route those lines and run a high fender! Finding out the hard way sucks...

I do love the rally looks of the low fender though. Your hybrid looks pretty sweet!
Bit odd. Remove the caliper entirely. Put the RH single banjo bolt in place of the LH double banjo bolt. Save the fluid in the crossover line and RH caliper to add back into the MC when you bleed the air out. Would beat tying that caliper up and stuffing around like that. 2c.
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Bit odd. Remove the caliper entirely. Put the RH single banjo bolt in place of the LH double banjo bolt. Save the fluid in the crossover line and RH caliper to add back into the MC when you bleed the air out. Would beat tying that caliper up and stuffing around like that. 2c.
Where would you save the fluid? Dirt intrusion?

We didn't get far after that pic, pretty much made camp and waited for things to dry out in the morning. Even the guys with high fenders and thumpers were having trouble in those conditions anyway. Point is, 950 guys can get rid of that "loop" brake line at home and avoid any issues. 990 lines are ready to accept high fender as is.
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When I add my 2nd right side brake line and higher SE fender . . . I was planning cutting the back half of the OEM fender off leaving 3" of cross-over plastic so I can keep my stock fork guards stable etc. i like the way it supports the left brake line and speedo cable . . . and is more stable than the standard fork guards.



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I haven't had any stability issues. I do have the neoprene guards on the fork legs and that's where the leg shields hit if they move. No marks on them at this point with better than 25,000 miles of use
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Be very careful with crossover lines on the low front fender:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667236



Far better to go with the 990 setup of using the "S" configuration, which can run inside our outside of the forks. Mine are run inside the forks:

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Be very careful with crossover lines on the low front fender:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667236



Far better to go with the 990 setup of using the "S" configuration, which can run inside our outside of the forks. Mine are run inside the forks:

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I plan on adding a 2nd line.
I would not compare the crappy 800GS OEM fender with the 950/990:



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Where would you save the fluid? Dirt intrusion?

We didn't get far after that pic, pretty much made camp and waited for things to dry out in the morning. Even the guys with high fenders and thumpers were having trouble in those conditions anyway. Point is, 950 guys can get rid of that "loop" brake line at home and avoid any issues. 990 lines are ready to accept high fender as is.
The lines come into the top of the RH caliper so after you take the banjo bolt out the caliper will be full of fluid until you tip it upside down. If you need fluid to top up the MC after you have changed the LH banjo bolt you can remove the RH caliper and pour it into the MC. You can then use the double banjo on the RH caliper with the crossover line doubled over. This is better than getting dirt into the now unused RH caliper or putting a leaking caliper in your luggage. I've had to do this to get myself home after my front wheel locked up with mud.
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Far better to go with the 990 setup of using the "S" configuration, which can run inside our outside of the forks. Mine are run inside the forks:
I note that you have a 2005 ADV, but can you confirm that it's the 210 mm suspension travel, rather than the 230 mm version. I ask because US bikes, an sometimes UK bikes, can be upto a year out with regard to spec - i.e. a bike built in 2004 can have a part-2005 spec.

Off which model/year (part number) are your brake lines?

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I note that you have a 2005 ADV, but can you confirm that it's the 210 mm suspension travel, rather than the 230 mm version. I ask because US bikes, an sometimes UK bikes, can be upto a year out with regard to spec - i.e. a bike built in 2004 can have a part-2005 spec.

Off which model/year (part number) are your brake lines?

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Here is the thread where this is all laid out: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=763632

I used the 2010 R parts. Not sure about the length of travel on my bike. My bike has a June 2005 build date, and I know it has some parts that are much more like the 2004 bikes (i.e., extra gussets on the frame). I've sat on a 2012 R, a 2012 standard white, and the 2012 Dakar, and the height of my bike is very comparable to the 2012 R but just a tad shorter.
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The lines come into the top of the RH caliper so after you take the banjo bolt out the caliper will be full of fluid until you tip it upside down. If you need fluid to top up the MC after you have changed the LH banjo bolt you can remove the RH caliper and pour it into the MC. You can then use the double banjo on the RH caliper with the crossover line doubled over. This is better than getting dirt into the now unused RH caliper or putting a leaking caliper in your luggage. I've had to do this to get myself home after my front wheel locked up with mud.

Ahh, I think I understand. Clever!
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Here is the thread where this is all laid out: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=763632

I used the 2010 R parts. Not sure about the length of travel on my bike. My bike has a June 2005 build date, and I know it has some parts that are much more like the 2004 bikes (i.e., extra gussets on the frame). I've sat on a 2012 R, a 2012 standard white, and the 2012 Dakar, and the height of my bike is very comparable to the 2012 R but just a tad shorter.
Thanks for the link.

Your bikes looks like a 2004: seat (by 2005 they had a stepped seat) and the heat shield (looks as if yours stops at the frame - 2005s extended back further).

If you're interested to know if your suspension is 210 or 230 travel, you can measure it with no load on the front forks - just measure from top of axle clamp to bottom of dust seal.
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I plan on adding a 2nd line.
I would not compare the crappy 800GS OEM fender with the 950/990:



Good plan on your part. And BMWs are not the only bikes that can shatter a low fender. Here are some shots from a prior thread:




Bottom line is that I like your solution, and I think you are headed in the right direction. You might also consider lifting your low fender just a tad to increase the clearance once you remove that crossover line: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237775
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