950SM Jet kit required?

510danr · 02-28-2013, 06:18 PM

I've got a stock 950 SM. Aside from raising the needles, will it benefit from bigger main jets? Trying to decide if I need a jet kit.

brents347 · 02-28-2013, 10:17 PM

NEED a jet-kit for where you are at sea-level, no. Would the bike benefit from it a little bit? Yes. In my opinion it would not be enough to talk about.

But if you have done exhaust or air-filter or air-box mods, that is a different question and you would benefit from the jet-kit more then.

mousitsas · 02-28-2013, 10:26 PM

With stock exhausts and filter leave the jetting stock.
With filter/exhaust mods its a different story.

Zuber · 03-07-2013, 12:13 AM

The Flex-Jet remote screws always make a difference.

genghis9021 · 03-08-2013, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuber

the flex-jet remote screws always make a difference.

+1

Sporting Wood · 03-08-2013, 07:16 PM

Needle makes a HUGE difference. I wouldn't own one with out them.

I'm the guy that tested and tested and tested jets and these damn god forsaken CVR carbs to death. O2 sensor, dyno, every combination possible, seriously. The stock needle is an on/off switch. When you fatten up the fuel on top of the rev range, the stock needle will throw everything into oblivion. Thing will gag and cough when you twist the throttle big time. Only way to make them work is to keep the top lean...which sucks and isn't the way to do it.

Flex jets are nice, especially if you move wildly in elevation. Not necessary though imho.

aeronaut · 03-09-2013, 04:13 AM

Search for 'x-bike' jet settings for 950SM. Requires a filter, remove airbox triangle, new main jets (and possibly idle ..can't remember). Really wakes the bike up.

EDIT, here you go:

Front Main Jet: 170
Rear Main Jet: 175
Floats set to stock 3mm height
Mixture screws set to 2.5 turns out
Slide Needles set to 3rd notch.

Vent hose lengths are critical too, the ends of the vent hose must be in clean, still air, otherwise you'll get surging. The above requires free flow filter and more importantly, removal of triangle access holes in the airbox.

This gave me fantastic throttle response and great low-mid torque, with pull to redline.

FYI, Once I dyno'd, I was a touch lean at low rpm low throttle opening, and opened idle mixture screws to 2.75 turns.

gefr · 03-09-2013, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeronaut

FYI, Once I dyno'd, I was a touch lean at low rpm low throttle opening, and opened idle mixture screws to 2.75 turns.

I always worry about consumption, when I hear for more power. How did your settings affect consumption?
Cheers.

mousitsas · 03-09-2013, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeronaut

Search for 'x-bike' jet settings for 950SM. Requires a filter, remove airbox triangle, new main jets (and possibly idle ..can't remember). Really wakes the bike up.

EDIT, here you go:

Front Main Jet: 170
Rear Main Jet: 175
Floats set to stock 3mm height
Mixture screws set to 2.5 turns out
Slide Needles set to 3rd notch.

Vent hose lengths are critical too, the ends of the vent hose must be in clean, still air, otherwise you'll get surging. The above requires free flow filter and more importantly, removal of triangle access holes in the airbox.

This gave me fantastic throttle response and great low-mid torque, with pull to redline.

FYI, Once I dyno'd, I was a touch lean at low rpm low throttle opening, and opened idle mixture screws to 2.75 turns.

Is it possible to post your dyno+AFR chart? It would be much appreciated!
In case you haven't got it, do you remember your AFR up top?

nattyMo · 03-25-2013, 06:59 AM

As Aero has said the X-Bikes solution has worked well for many.

Prior to learning of the X-Bikes jetting spec, I had mine re-jetted using a dyno AF etc. at a local shop that's done great work on some of my previous bikes. I wasn't trying for top end power, just great driveability. While I don't have specifics I can say that the needles did cause problems and the factory pro kit I provided didn't offer a solution. The shop spent a ton of time finding a needle that worked.

For sure the jetting changes improved the ride, no more surging it pulls from idle to the limiter in one smooth surge. I picked up 11hp in the mid-range, it's making 98hp at the wheel. Mileage is in the 32-40 range, same as stock. I am happy with the results, it was worth the time and expense.

NM

02-28-2013, 06:18 PM	#1
510danr ^OP n00b Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Oakland, CA Oddometer: 1	950SM Jet kit required? I've got a stock 950 SM. Aside from raising the needles, will it benefit from bigger main jets? Trying to decide if I need a jet kit.

02-28-2013, 10:17 PM	#2
brents347 KOTW 2010 Finisher Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Where the hell is Truckee, CA? Oddometer: 3,007	NEED a jet-kit for where you are at sea-level, no. Would the bike benefit from it a little bit? Yes. In my opinion it would not be enough to talk about. But if you have done exhaust or air-filter or air-box mods, that is a different question and you would benefit from the jet-kit more then. __________________ Brents347 Truckee, CA. 07 Yamaha R6 07 KTM 950 Super Enduro 04 KTM 250exc- plated two-stroke

03-07-2013, 12:13 AM	#4
Zuber Zoob Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Main Street, Shedd, Oregon Oddometer: 988	The Flex-Jet remote screws always make a difference. __________________ "Dad, can I get a motorcycle when I grow up?" "Son, you can't do both"

03-08-2013, 07:16 PM	#6
Sporting Wood I <3 Energizer Bunny Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Horneytown, NC Oddometer: 556	Needle makes a HUGE difference. I wouldn't own one with out them. I'm the guy that tested and tested and tested jets and these damn god forsaken CVR carbs to death. O2 sensor, dyno, every combination possible, seriously. The stock needle is an on/off switch. When you fatten up the fuel on top of the rev range, the stock needle will throw everything into oblivion. Thing will gag and cough when you twist the throttle big time. Only way to make them work is to keep the top lean...which sucks and isn't the way to do it. Flex jets are nice, especially if you move wildly in elevation. Not necessary though imho. __________________ Yet Another New Air Filter for the KTM 950 - $150

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02-28-2013, 10:26 PM	#3
mousitsas Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Athens, Greece Oddometer: 2,147	With stock exhausts and filter leave the jetting stock. With filter/exhaust mods its a different story.

03-09-2013, 04:13 AM	#7
aeronaut Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Central MD, USA Oddometer: 393	Search for 'x-bike' jet settings for 950SM. Requires a filter, remove airbox triangle, new main jets (and possibly idle ..can't remember). Really wakes the bike up. EDIT, here you go: Front Main Jet: 170 Rear Main Jet: 175 Floats set to stock 3mm height Mixture screws set to 2.5 turns out Slide Needles set to 3rd notch. Vent hose lengths are critical too, the ends of the vent hose must be in clean, still air, otherwise you'll get surging. The above requires free flow filter and more importantly, removal of triangle access holes in the airbox. This gave me fantastic throttle response and great low-mid torque, with pull to redline. FYI, Once I dyno'd, I was a touch lean at low rpm low throttle opening, and opened idle mixture screws to 2.75 turns.

03-25-2013, 06:59 AM	#10
nattyMo Studly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore Md Oddometer: 554	As Aero has said the X-Bikes solution has worked well for many. Prior to learning of the X-Bikes jetting spec, I had mine re-jetted using a dyno AF etc. at a local shop that's done great work on some of my previous bikes. I wasn't trying for top end power, just great driveability. While I don't have specifics I can say that the needles did cause problems and the factory pro kit I provided didn't offer a solution. The shop spent a ton of time finding a needle that worked. For sure the jetting changes improved the ride, no more surging it pulls from idle to the limiter in one smooth surge. I picked up 11hp in the mid-range, it's making 98hp at the wheel. Mileage is in the 32-40 range, same as stock. I am happy with the results, it was worth the time and expense. NM