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Old 03-07-2013, 08:56 PM   #151
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Heal up fast, Scott!!!.....It sure is a DRAG to have to leave Baja early!!!.......Great RR as always! Thanks for taking us along Kelly!
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Must be something about Scotts and Mexico!
Glad Scott DW is feeling better and hope Scott GP gets well soon.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #152
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Another great report Wan's! Heal fast Scott, I had my clavicle pinned last time and it heals much faster, and no figure eight brace!

Radek, giving the big 990 another run or taking the 450 to Vegas?
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:45 PM   #153
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Broken collarbones really suck. Hoping Scott's heals up
fast. The pins will help though. I broke my right clavicle
a few years back and on a solo ride out in the middle of
nowhere and had to pick the bike back up and ride it
back out.

Either that or become vulture food. No pins or plates
for me, and no cast. Just a sling to keep it immobilized
for about six weeks which was a nightmare.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:09 AM   #154
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Broken subframes: packing too much weight too far back ....leverage is NOT your friend

Silt: a minefield

Riding on beach and/or salt flats: Fun at first....until you see the irreversible damage it does to bike (rims, spokes, unpainted metal)


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When someone gets hurt on a ride, it usually dampens the spirits....

I forwarded your post to some friends who just got back from Baja and pointed out the bit from Gonzaga to Coco's....they did it from south to north on sensible bikes (450's and 500's ) and with a guy following by jeep

Loving your RR.....Baja is magic....fer sure.


When I am at the end of a ride there I often feel "done" and start planning other rides. to other places...but within a day or two am already jonesing to get back.


Waiting for more.....
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:01 AM   #155
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"Wait, I'm confused now. Mine Road is right?
OK -
Haha, we'll go with your last one - "8 mile mine rd from hell, what the fuck were we thinking!" "


I know that road, not sure I'd want to take my 950 up it.... I've always known it be called the Pioneer Mine Road. It looks like the gullywasher rains have torn it up even more.

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Old 03-08-2013, 08:14 AM   #156
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:32 AM   #157
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Broken subframes: packing too much weight too far back ....leverage is NOT your friend
Normally that would be the case, but Bartek uses a Giant Loop bag and the only thing he's ever had on the rack is a 2 Gal. rotopax. That has been his setup since he got the bike new. We regularly carry much more weight in a duffel strapped to the rack and our subframe has been fine.

I think it has something to do with the way liquid handles the bumps and not just the weight. Two Gal. or 7.5708236 liters in your case is less than 16 lbs. or 0.90718474 kg.
I'm probably the only guy on ADV who's not an engineer, but I think the liquid just hammers the subframe until it gives.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:54 AM   #158
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then we're shit out of luck

Best linkie ever!!

Seriously, you gotta stop that. I can't be laughin that hard while I'm supposed to be working. You're gonna get me fired!

It's funny cuz it's so true. I know how it feels to be forced to decide when to leave a rider behind and hope they make it. And how much relief there is to find out they did. It should get easier, but it just gets worse the next time.

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Old 03-08-2013, 09:56 AM   #159
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The road to San Evaristo and beyond.

LW,

I so remember the silt beds on the way out to the Mission. (thats some scary shit right there.) The kids all along the way were great, and we gave out steeekers every where we stopped.

Too bad you started that road so late in the day. It will be interesting to see how you faired heading out of all that in the dark!!!!
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:23 AM   #160
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I think it has something to do with the way liquid handles the bumps and not just the weight. Two Gal. or 7.5708236 liters in your case is less than 16 lbs. or 0.90718474 kg.
I'm probably the only guy on ADV who's not an engineer, but I think the liquid just hammers the subframe until it gives.

I think you are correct. Several buddies had the same failure back when the 950 first came out. It's the jigglin' and sloshing of fuel back there that eventually does it.

Ouch on Scott's CB - dang it. Injuries on the trail create that instant realization that things are from then on out, are going to be different. Heal up careful and strong Scott!
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:44 PM   #161
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Must be something about Scotts and Mexico!
Glad Scott DW is feeling better and hope Scott GP gets well soon.


Hiya Bob - I've got a joke for you...
Knock knock!
who's there?
Orange.
Orange who?
Orange you glad your name isn't Scott?




(Just kidding all you Scotts out there!!)


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I broke my right clavicle
a few years back and on a solo ride out in the middle of
nowhere and had to pick the bike back up and ride it
back out.
Either that or become vulture food.
Hey Scott, were you in Baja by any chance?



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Another great report Wan's! Heal fast Scott, I had my clavicle pinned last time and it heals much faster, and no figure eight brace!
Hi Scott, I mean - Ian!
Wow, there are a lot of broken and formerly broken folks on ADV...



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they did it from south to north on sensible bikes (450's and 500's )

Hey.
What are you saying??




Our dear friend rburkat (Hi Radek! ) always says,
"The road to adventure is paved with really, really bad ideas."

Ever since he took us on a 14 hour ride in your area (Chiliwack to Poison Mountain and back),
we've tried to live by that credo.
He told us it was the Canadian way. Was he lying?



Regardless, we have an abundance of bad ideas.





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"Wait, I'm confused now. Mine Road is right?
OK -
Haha, we'll go with your last one - "8 mile mine rd from hell, what the fuck were we thinking!" "


I know that road, not sure I'd want to take my 950 up it.... I've always known it be called the Pioneer Mine Road. It looks like the gullywasher rains have torn it up even more.

DW
Thanks, DW! I still like the "WTF" part of the name.


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I live in Los Barriles. Check your PMs.
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Best linkie ever!!

haha, glad you liked that one! It cracks me up every time.



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Too bad you started that road so late in the day. It will be interesting to see how you faired heading out of all that in the dark!!!!
Hi cuneesity!
I'm glad you signed in again, I was just going to go look for your last comment...

I didn't want to give it away, but yes - we missed the spectacular drop down into Evaristo because it was dark.
I do have some photos, though - I felt so bad for Bartek.




Hey there wachs!










Day 4: 2/20/13 San Juanico/Scorpion Bay to La Paz, continued.
279 miles








One last photo of the family. I like this one!


(with 127 pics for the day, it’s easy to skip one by accident)





Hey, did I give you this map yet?
I should have done those pink dots a long time ago, huh?








Baja dogs are the best. They don’t get enough love, but they’re so smart.
I love these herding dogs - we’ve seen them a lot.
Especially near Agua Verde.
One dog (a male) is in charge of a herd of goats.
He takes the herd up into remote areas (usually steep mountains) to graze, and watches over them -
protecting them from predators (including people).






Good boy!





















This seemed like as good a place as any to empty the Rotopax.







This area is really pretty. It’s surprising how green it can be.







Matt spotted these burros, way up on a hill.
I was surprised my photo turned out! you can even see a bird...







Another water crossing...














Even greener.






It was odd to see a sign out here...
from what I can gather, it says “Singing Frogs - No Hunting.”
Um. okay.







An oasis filled with palm trees!







This fancy gate is even more bizarre than the sign about singing frogs.






According to this website, Canta Rana has 6 residents?
Is this some kind of eco-lodge? Or just some rich people?





Vultures, biding their time until the next WanKer crash...






A horse, of course.






There were a few sections that had poured concrete.
I guess to minimize the washouts.
We remembered these from last time - they have definitely improved their technique.
Last time, Matt had to work around lots of loose chunks of rock embedded in concrete.







This was another spot filled with happy kids...







They were sooo stoked - too bad we didn’t have time to stop








When we came across this burro, I was worried that there was something wrong with him...
But, no. He was just super chill. Whatevs, gringos. Ándale!














Sort of hard to see (he’s at the base of that cactus), but this was another good dog and his herd of goats.
He’s looking at the pickup that was coming towards us.







During this ride, I had been looking for a steep, loose uphill.
It made an impression on me when we rode this in 2007.
I could barely recognize it with all the concrete, but think this is the spot.
Back then, it was mostly large, loose rocks (with the concrete chunks)
and it had freaked me out.
But, that was a long time ago.
We’ve done a lot more rocks since then.


I was looking forward to comparing the climb this time...
but it’s “fixed” now.







We stopped here for a little break.


photo by Barteknologie™





Look at this view!







What a spectacular canyon!







Bartek took a photo of us...


photo by Barteknologie™





As I took a photo of him.








Here we are, going around the mountain.






That link was for Goggles - how are the meds treating you, bud?
¡Viva la Percocet!





OK, I think I’ll leave you guys here for now. (You’re welcome! )


(I told Scott I'd try and break it up a little so he doesn't have to wait all day for a new post)
(Poor guy is bored off his ass. )








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Old 03-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #162
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Our dear friend rburkat (Hi Radek! ) always says,
"The road to adventure is paved with really, really bad ideas."

Ever since he took us on a 14 hour ride in your area (Chiliwack to Poison Mountain and back),
we've tried to live by that credo.
He told us it was the Canadian way. Was he lying?


Well.....not all Canadians think that at first.....maybe at the end of the day in retrospect

I read your BC ride report and thought you were nuts up top in Chilliwack....but I have ridden Poison Mt and China Head Pass on my GS1100 years ago a bunch (led a group of 22 BMW riders up there on a tour I led in '98)....but I have regained my senses and just take the 450 or 690 into that stuff these days

China Head Pass with sensible bike....:



And by Poison Mt on Big Bikes....:






This section of Baja to San Evaristo is on my to-do list, so thanks for the pics that were encouraging (scenery and singing frogs)....and the silt warning.

I hope to be down there for 4 weeks over Xmas on the 690.

Ride on........
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #163
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This section of Baja to San Evaristo is on my to-do list, so thanks for the pics that were encouraging (scenery and singing frogs)....and the silt warning.

I hope to be down there for 4 weeks over Xmas on the 690.

Ride on........
Make sure you leave yourself plenty of daylight.....the colors of the road beds and canyons are truly something to behold.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #164
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Make sure you leave yourself plenty of daylight.....the colors of the road beds and canyons are truly something to behold.
Thanks for the tip....I plan on camping along the way and not try to do as many miles/day as these guys.....I like to enjoy the ride at a slower pace these days...or at least fewer miles/day
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:42 PM   #165
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Thoroughly enjoying your RR Wan. It's kinda like prerunning as I will be riding a lot of the same stuff on my month long solo (mostly) trip in April.
Wish me luck...
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