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Old 03-02-2013, 03:33 AM   #1
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Internal helmet sunshade retrofit - does this exist?

Has anyone here ever heard of retrofitting an internal sun shade in a helmet that doesn't have one (or for that matter, is not designed for one)? Yes, I know, just wear sunglasses but it would be so nice to retrofit one into my new Arai XD4. Anyone ever hear of anything like this? Even if it is something that I have to open my visor to reach in and draw down for shade, that would be ok (instead of ones that are built into helmets and have an actuator that is accessible from outside the shell, etc.)

As an aside, I have seen those visors that electronically shade at the touch of a switch but a) I haven't seen one for the XD4 and b) I like my pin-lock visor on my XD4 and would rather not replace it.

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Old 03-02-2013, 03:42 AM   #2
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I am led to understand that Arai's don't have internal shades full stop. It's something to do with having to thin the shell??
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:52 AM   #3
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I am led to understand that Arai's don't have internal shades full stop. It's something to do with having to thin the shell??
Thanks - I know the Arais don't have it, I was just wondering if there are any aftermarket sunshades that can be retrofitted into the Arai. As for why Arai doesn't offer this feature, I don't really know but I do know that as a rule, Arai generally avoids adding "thin-ness" and "holes" that may compromise the strength. They don't do brow vents like everyone else does (in the helmet shell) because they believe that brow vents cut into the helmet near edges compromise strength which is why they incorporate them into the visor itself. Makes sense to me...Still, I'd love a pull-down sunshade within the helmet somehow...:)
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:51 AM   #4
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Are you talking about this type of stick-on sunshade?

http://www.helmetheadcycle.com/produ...isor-universal


I use one of these and find it works OK.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:53 AM   #5
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Seriously, I use a smoked piece of vinyl cling. You can buy a baby shade at Walmart for a couple of dollars and cut 3 or 4 out of it. Just stick it to the inside.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:06 AM   #6
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Are you talking about this type of stick-on sunshade?

http://www.helmetheadcycle.com/produ...isor-universal


I use one of these and find it works OK.
Brilliant - hadn't thought of something that simple - thank you!
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:07 AM   #7
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Seriously, I use a smoked piece of vinyl cling. You can buy a baby shade at Walmart for a couple of dollars and cut 3 or 4 out of it. Just stick it to the inside.
Love it - cheap and cheerful without compromising comfort or safety. You guys are the best.

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Old 03-02-2013, 01:22 PM   #8
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I had a local automotive glass tinting place do the top half of my shield about a year ago and it worked great for $20. That one in the link looks like maybe a better product for 5 bucks less and free shipping.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:06 PM   #9
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Often used tape, maybe 1" or so wide, on top part of visor. Helps a lot and you still have plenty vision, just less sky. Some visors are avaiable with dark glass on top and gradually lighter so even if gets dark outside you still have some almost clear section at the bottom.

Modifying for drop down internal visor doesn't sound easy at all if tha't what you meant, and probably not a good idea doing modifications from a safety point of view.

EDIT: Maybe this would do the job..no idea how well works though http://www.super-visor.com/
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:40 AM   #10
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Are you talking about this type of stick-on sunshade?

http://www.helmetheadcycle.com/produ...isor-universal


I use one of these and find it works OK.
When you installed it, did you follow their directions? I.e. shield on the helmet and in the closed position, and then slide in the sunblocker from the top?

It seems like it would be a lot easier to put the sunblocker on with the shield removed from the helmet.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:13 AM   #11
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I use two things...

I have one of these in my Arai QuantumII:

http://www.britishmotorcyclegear.com/sunax-bx.asp






And in all my other helmets, including my Arai XD3, I cut sun shades out of static cling limo tint. It's about US$11.00 at AutoZone and you can probably cut 100 or more out of a roll.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:17 AM   #12
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I like that Sunax. In particular, I like the fact that, if you have your shield open a bit for venting (e.g. to clear a fogged shield), the shade is still in place. So, if you're riding into the morning sun, you don't have to choose between a fogged shield and your eye shade.

But, of course, I also like $15 versus $40 for the Sunax.

Since you basically use both, any thoughts on what I said above and which one actually works better (ignoring cost, for a moment)?
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:27 AM   #13
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watching and wondering

hello...i'm watching this conversation closely since i am having the same dilemma and i am eager to hear which you prefer sunax or limo tint...

and may i ask just as an aside, can any of you give a heads up why you did not go with shoei helmet....i am considering an arai......but was just wondering
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #14
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I like that Sunax. In particular, I like the fact that, if you have your shield open a bit for venting (e.g. to clear a fogged shield), the shade is still in place. So, if you're riding into the morning sun, you don't have to choose between a fogged shield and your eye shade.

But, of course, I also like $15 versus $40 for the Sunax.

Since you basically use both, any thoughts on what I said above and which one actually works better (ignoring cost, for a moment)?
I really like the Sunax for exactly the reason you stated. You still get the same eye shade even when the shield is open a bit. Also, it's a really nice, professional-looking piece of kit. It almost looks OEM.

As far as working, they work equally well as long as the shield is down.

It's kind of hard to separate it from the costs. In my book, an $11.00 roll of static-cling, limo dark, window tint is the hands-down winner. You can put them in all your helmets and even give some out to your friends for a quarter of the price of the Sunax.
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hello...i'm watching this conversation closely since i am having the same dilemma and i am eager to hear which you prefer sunax or limo tint...

and may i ask just as an aside, can any of you give a heads up why you did not go with shoei helmet....i am considering an arai......but was just wondering
I have several. I have an Arai Quantum II and XD3, a Shoei Multitec, and a Schuberth C3.

I use the Sunax in the Quantum II and a limo tint strip in all the others.

I didn't go with Shoeis because I was able to find Arais on clearance.
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