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Old 03-07-2013, 12:53 AM   #31
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rode a ER6-F kwaka 650 ninja today - same motor/frame as the versys. Motor seemed better than the klr in every way possible - would pull (gently) from a little over 2000rpm . foot-peg position sucked balls. Suspension wasn't bad for a wannabe sport-bike. KLR with this motor would be really nice - a poor mans gs800.

I'm off to Hastings tomorrow to ride a versys. Got the whole day so I'm going up via the 'tukas and Martinborugh then up the coastal route (R52 middle road etc). If I've got the energy I'll come back via Taihape-Kimbolton-Ashurst etc.

Got to work Saturday to make up for it though...
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:27 AM   #32
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Call in for a cuppa if you're anywhere near here around lunch time. I've got the bike you REALLY want to test ride sitting in my shed.

You know you want a DR...
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #33
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rode a ER6-F kwaka 650 ninja today - same motor/frame as the versys. Motor seemed better than the klr in every way possible - would pull (gently) from a little over 2000rpm . foot-peg position sucked balls. Suspension wasn't bad for a wannabe sport-bike. KLR with this motor would be really nice - a poor mans gs800.
Google "KLRE650"
Repsolrider's conversion is very cool.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:07 AM   #34
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Call in for a cuppa if you're anywhere near here around lunch time. I've got the bike you REALLY want to test ride sitting in my shed.

You know you want a DR...
Thanks for the offer but timing didn't quite work out. I went to and from Dannieverke via Top Grass rd and Ballance Valley rd - cool road's

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Google "KLRE650"
Repsolrider's conversion is very cool.
Yes a quality job thats for sure. I could never attempt anything of that complexity (if all you needed was a hammer I might be able to make it work...)

Well I rode the versys and it was very tidy and fine to ride but it wasn't dramatically better than the klr.

The versys has a better motor and marginally better front brake but in every other regard - comfort, wind protection, handling, gearbox I prefer the klr. I've asked them to come up with a tradeup cost but unless its really attractive I won't buy it.

I'm pleased to announce that I've fixed the oil leak from the oil filter lid and the rack didn't come adrift and since I've played with the jetting (for the stock pipe) I've gone from 15km/l to 18-19km/l

Hey Nordie - are you still happy with the shinko 705's? - the e09 on the back of the klr is now dead
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:14 AM   #35
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The problem is that you've modifed the KLR so much to suit your own ideal (recluse, pegs, very upright stance etc) that you'll struggle to find anything else that matches what you want from it (unless perhaps you change your requirements & increase your price range a bit). A newer 685 KLR perhaps, & swap the bits across?
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:23 AM   #36
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Hey Nordie - are you still happy with the shinko 705's? - the e09 on the back of the klr is now dead
Very.

Money no object, E07 rear/MT21 front.

Scottish heritage, 705's front and rear...
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:15 PM   #37
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The problem is that you've modifed the KLR so much to suit your own ideal (recluse, pegs, very upright stance etc) that you'll struggle to find anything else that matches what you want from it (unless perhaps you change your requirements & increase your price range a bit). A newer 685 KLR perhaps, & swap the bits across?
yeah I've come to realize that. With the bikes that are just a bit better/faster etc the plus items aren't enough to overcome the minus items.

In terms of size, comfort, ride and handling I'm really happy with the klr. If I'm honest there is enough power (I don't go fast - 120km/hr is about it) its really just the agricultural feel of the engine, the crappy front brake and lately the high maintenance (almost an honorary airhead).

so maybe a supermoto front disk rotor (about $200us) and then a lower mile klr might be an option.

you going on Bart's RRRR?


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Very.

Money no object, E07 rear/MT21 front.

Scottish heritage, 705's front and rear...
thanks Nordie

So do I want a SHINKO R 130/80 -17 R705 REAR or a SHINKO E705 130/90x17 REAR DUAL SPORT T/T?

A mt21 front is cheaper than the 705 front so....
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #38
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yeah I've come to realize that....You going on Bart's RRRR?
No, until my back is much better, I'm off the bike. Thinking a 3 - 6 mth exile. It's coming right - noticeable week on week improvement, but always a background level of discomfort. I did manage to walk to & from work yesterday (and to walk home for lunch & back), so that is a vast improvement on what I could manage a while ago. I don't want to over stress things & end up with a more severe issue.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:41 PM   #39
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So do I want a SHINKO R 130/80 -17 R705 REAR or a SHINKO E705 130/90x17 REAR DUAL SPORT T/T?

A mt21 front is cheaper than the 705 front so....
Either/or.
The 90 will be higher geared...
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Loving the title of this thread by the way............

Don't foget that a motorcycle that is not just being used as a utility vehicle has to move you (emotionally) in some way. Practicality and ticking most of the boxes only goes so far.

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Old 03-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #41
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thanks Nordie

So do I want a SHINKO R 130/80 -17 R705 REAR or a SHINKO E705 130/90x17 REAR DUAL SPORT T/T?

A mt21 front is cheaper than the 705 front so....
If you are going to do a lot of road riding then i wouldn't get an MT21 front. Best value adv knob out there IMHO, but have weird issues under heavy braking on the road and tend to make the steering very heavy feeling.
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If you are going to do a lot of road riding then i wouldn't get an MT21 front. Best value adv knob out there IMHO, but have weird issues under heavy braking on the road and tend to make the steering very heavy feeling.
What's the front rim width on the KLR?

The TT with a worn MT21 was very neutral on the road but has a 1.6" rim.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:04 PM   #43
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I put 705's on the Africa Twin for the TT2000 and they were bloody good. Lots better on the twisties than the nobbly sort and they are actually quite good on the gravel.Look like a long laster too as they've worn bugger all in 3,500km.
Havent ridden them on any kind of a wet surface tho....... it doesnt seem to rain anymore
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:58 AM   #44
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Mark,
when are you going to deal with these Nelson people using your "I want" thread to talk about tyres....? If you don't do something soon it will be an oil thread before you know it.
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PS - serviced the Pampera today and used Motul synthetic 10W30 2T gearbox oil. I find this greatly reduces clutch drag relative to standard mineral engine oil....................
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Mark,
when are you going to deal with these Nelson people using your "I want" thread to talk about tyres....? If you don't do something soon it will be an oil thread before you know it.
Regards,
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PS - serviced the Pampera today and used Motul synthetic 10W30 2T gearbox oil. I find this greatly reduces clutch drag relative to standard mineral engine oil....................
Ohh, oil, now you're talking!
Mark, do an inventory and find out which type of oil you have the most of in stock and buy the bike that takes that type of oil......problem solved!!
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