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Old 03-06-2013, 05:41 AM   #31
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That's great advice. I have been looking at doing Raw Hyde or one of the other dual sport/off road classes.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:47 AM   #32
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re upgrading the rear suspension.

the ESA on the 700/800 is a subset of the esa on the 1200s.
It is only dampening adjustment, no spring preload adjustment.

That said raising the dampening may be enough. Or installing a higher rate spring on the ESA shock (only $200 or so) would solve the potential bottoming issue.


Note the new ESA on the water cooled 1200GS is another step forward...semi dynamic...pretty impressive

Still it is important to get the underlying (pun??) mechanical spring rate in the right range for you weight and load.

Just a note....not all people want to "graduate" to a 1200.....after riding a series of "R" bikes which have grown in bulk and weight...I graduated to the F650GS.

going to Rawhide on another school will make you a better rider, learn to handle a heavy bike better....but in the end you will ALWAYS be able to handle a lighter bike better than a heavy bike....you will just have shifter you riding skills upward.

Now I know that I'm of an age that I don't give a dam what my image is any more (pretty much don't have an image to protect) so I don't really care if others think my bike is "macho" etc.
Now when I was 25...that was a bit different.

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Old 03-06-2013, 11:31 AM   #33
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That's great advice. I have been looking at doing Raw Hyde or one of the other dual sport/off road classes.
be sure to check out www.jimmylewisoffroad.com Dave
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:36 AM   #34
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73Datsun,

Unless I missed it, the thread failed to tell you that the 2013 F800GS is offered in a factory lowered version.

I have a 29" inseam as well, and I ride an F800GS.

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Old 03-06-2013, 06:14 PM   #35
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Hey Fred

I did know you could get a lowered suspension 800. Which then makes it the same height/clearance as the 700. But is the additional $ worth it?

The 700 now had upgraded brakes (dual front rotor) and from what I've heard (read here) the spoked wheels on the 800 aren't all that great.

It's certainly an option. But $ for $ I feel like the 700 might be a better bet then a lowered 800.

But I could be stupide.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:37 PM   #36
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Hey Fred

I did know you could get a lowered suspension 800. Which then makes it the same height/clearance as the 700. But is the additional $ worth it?

The 700 now had upgraded brakes (dual front rotor) and from what I've heard (read here) the spoked wheels on the 800 aren't all that great.

It's certainly an option. But $ for $ I feel like the 700 might be a better bet then a lowered 800.

But I could be stupide.
For your described purpose, the spoked wheels on the F800GS will be more than adequate....I weigh about 240lbs, and I gave my 08 f800 a hiding. have never damaged the wheels
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:58 AM   #37
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For your described purpose, the spoked wheels on the F800GS will be more than adequate....I weigh about 240lbs, and I gave my 08 f800 a hiding. have never damaged the wheels
I agree, I've hit some stupidly rough stuff 2-up on mine and no problems at all with the rims...
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Old 03-16-2013, 03:18 AM   #38
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Hey Fred

I did know you could get a lowered suspension 800. Which then makes it the same height/clearance as the 700. But is the additional $ worth it?

The 700 now had upgraded brakes (dual front rotor) and from what I've heard (read here) the spoked wheels on the 800 aren't all that great.

It's certainly an option. But $ for $ I feel like the 700 might be a better bet then a lowered 800.

But I could be stupide.
I just put my F800GS on the market (see Fleamarket) and bought an F700GS.

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Old 03-16-2013, 06:26 AM   #39
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I have the 800gs... But, if you are going to AK I would opt for the 1200 if you are staying on pavement mostly. High winds, high speed if you are going north through Canada then west. The 800 gets a bit buzzy on the highway.
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:43 AM   #40
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FWIW i went to alaska on my F650GS last summer. we crused 75-85 across Canada and one day we had very strong winds all day. Did a few 500 mile days.

No problem with the F650....it's "sail" area is a bit smaller than the R1200..so maybe it was better...I don't know. Biggest impact of the winds was lower gas milage....down to 45mpg ...

PS I have no buzz on my f650 till about 85mph (yep the heidenau K60 buzzed at around 25mpg then smooths out)
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:22 AM   #41
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This is great to hear. Thanks for all the advice.

Of course now there's a shake up at work which may require a relocation. Then my bike needs change to be more commuting centric (CA). But I guess, realistically, the 700 would still do quite all right with that.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:09 PM   #42
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Had two R1200s Now F800

Really don't reply much here, but I know how difficult it is to make the choice when you are stuck. I have had two R1200GS's (06, 07) and now have the 2012 F800GS Trophy. I love taking the bikes off road. The 800 is much easier to handle off road. It puzzles me that it is only 50 or so pounds lighter, because it feels like more than that. That being said, it is still a very heavy off road bike. My opinions: The 1200 is much better on the highway. It is just more planted, better wind protection, and does not seem as prone to being pushed around by the wind. The 1200 corners like butter, even on the track. It is truely the Swiss Army knife of M/Cs. Around town I prefer the 800, as it is just more flickable. If I were only going to have one bike, it would be the 1200. On any kind of trip, especially two up, it is just superior. It is very practical, and in my opinion the best bike on the planet. I have another bike for two up and trips, so I have the 800. If I had both the 1200 and 800, I would definitely ride the 800 more, as it is just more fun for me. When I sold the 1200 I thought, im selling the perfect bike. Somehow, that perfect bike didn't make me smile like the 800. There are things I miss about the 1200, but no way I would trade.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:49 PM   #43
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Hey all. Thanks for all the help in this thread.

I put a deposit on a F700GS with the Comfort and Safety packages. In Ostra Grey. I pick it up on Friday.

Already have goodies coming from MODoverland, SW Motech and pre-order for the Globe Scout panniers.

This will be my first new bike. I'm quite excited.

Thanks again!
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:40 PM   #44
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I'm sure that you will love the bike, I got an F800GS earlier this month and I'm thrilled with it,

Getting a lowered F800GS seems a bit strange to me, I too would have gotten the F700GS if the std height F800GS was too tall.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #45
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My sentiments exactly..

I traded my 2012 Yamaha Super-Tenere for a 2013 F700GS last October. I have the BMW "comfort" seat, and it is superb, IMHO. I've been a very happy camper, and I definitely enjoy the lighter weight of the beem. I also selected the "fast" Ostra-Gray color, and it is mighty stylish.
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