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Old 03-05-2013, 08:20 AM   #1
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Helmet Dual Sport vs Full Face

Just some input on a new helmet.

I have become accustomed to the better visual field of a MX style helmet from years of ATV'ing and past off road motorbiking, wearing goggles with the MX helmet and a balaclava for winter. I have worn my MX helmet on the road but at higher speeds, it is very noisy, it is draughty and cold in winter and the beak grabs the wind and pulls the helmet backwards at higher speeds. My wife also thinks I look pretty "doorky".

The full face motorbike helmets seem a little claustrophic, in the fact that they don't offer as wide/high of a visual field.

The dual sport helmets look much like a MX helmet with a face shield, so I anticipate similar noise and beak/wind issues which would make extensive road riding not so great.

I ride a Tiger 800 mostly road.

Any full face style helmets out there with a MX style field of view?
Any comments appreciated.

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Old 03-05-2013, 10:58 AM   #2
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I bought an Arai XD4 and am very happy with it. I dont find it louder than any other helmet i've owned, the peak is removeable, you can wear googles with the visor on and has great ventilation....i wore it all winter and has been warm down to -10*F except for some fogging (no breath box)
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:09 AM   #3
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I ride both on-road and off road. Off road I wear a standard MX style helmet. On road, I wear an Arai Profile. While the eye opening of the Arai is slightly smaller than the MX helmet, I find the protruding mouth guard on the MX helmet to be more obtrusive. I've never found the full-face on-road helmet to cause me any problems with vision.

One possible solution, if you don't like the full face, would be an open face on-road helmet, I've considered them because it would be cooler in the summer (N.Alabama.) I'm also thinking about an Icon Variant, sort of a cross between off and on road helmets. There are a lot of times, on road, when I'd like a visor, and a lot of time, off road, when I'd like a face shield instead of Goggles. Not really a fan of goggles - just personal preference. It also has a larger opening than most full-face helmets, plus, it just looks cool!

These guys on Triumph Tigers seem to do pretty well in their Variants! --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvYAcJOx3s
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:11 PM   #4
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I bought an Arai XD4 and am very happy with it. I dont find it louder than any other helmet i've owned, the peak is removeable, you can wear googles with the visor on and has great ventilation....i wore it all winter and has been warm down to -10*F except for some fogging (no breath box)
Does the peak cause drag or buffeting at highway speeds or do you just remove it for the road?
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:39 PM   #5
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:39 PM   #6
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Looks like he posted in the right place to me. This is not the FM.

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Old 03-05-2013, 04:53 PM   #7
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this was in the flea market.

but anyway, i think the Shark Evoline 3 is the best modular helmet on the market.

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Old 03-05-2013, 04:54 PM   #8
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Looks like he posted in the right place to me. This is not the FM.

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Old 03-05-2013, 07:09 PM   #9
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I think the helmets that cater to the touring style have a bigger "face hole" (technical term). I have a Shoei Neotec and it seems to have a wider FOV than average. I believe that the Shoei touring styles are all designed for the upright riding posture so the vents are aimed accordingly and the FOV is lower and wider than the typical racer lids. Something like the Shoei Qwest or the modular Multitec, Neotec even the new GT-Air for example. I am sure other brands have something similar.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #10
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You've also got to try them on your head. If it hurts, you won't wear it. You'll also want to see if it's rubbing your ears, or bumping your chin, etc. Lots of variability.

Like you, I find almost all of the street types unpleasantly close around the face, and vision restricting.

I wish I could find someone with a Shark or a Nolan 43 or such to try on. Those two, and a few others, have my interest, mostly due to visibility and ventilation.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:42 AM   #11
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Just some input on a new helmet.

I have become accustomed to the better visual field of a MX style helmet from years of ATV'ing and past off road motorbiking, wearing goggles with the MX helmet and a balaclava for winter. I have worn my MX helmet on the road but at higher speeds, it is very noisy, it is draughty and cold in winter and the beak grabs the wind and pulls the helmet backwards at higher speeds. My wife also thinks I look pretty "doorky".

The full face motorbike helmets seem a little claustrophic, in the fact that they don't offer as wide/high of a visual field.

The dual sport helmets look much like a MX helmet with a face shield, so I anticipate similar noise and beak/wind issues which would make extensive road riding not so great.

I ride a Tiger 800 mostly road.

Any full face style helmets out there with a MX style field of view?
Any comments appreciated.

Thanks,
Glenn

Kinda odd as it's been my experience that goggles REDUCE my peripheral vision quite severely compared to any full face helmet I've ever worn.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:21 PM   #12
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I have a Shoei Hornet that I use for both dirt and tar, its great once you get over the price shock and I like the pull out liner so you can give it a good wash after sweating in it on a hot day .
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:40 PM   #13
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Just some input on a new helmet.

I have become accustomed to the better visual field of a MX style helmet from years of ATV'ing and past off road motorbiking, wearing goggles with the MX helmet and a balaclava for winter. I have worn my MX helmet on the road but at higher speeds, it is very noisy, it is draughty and cold in winter and the beak grabs the wind and pulls the helmet backwards at higher speeds. My wife also thinks I look pretty "doorky".

The full face motorbike helmets seem a little claustrophic, in the fact that they don't offer as wide/high of a visual field.

The dual sport helmets look much like a MX helmet with a face shield, so I anticipate similar noise and beak/wind issues which would make extensive road riding not so great.

I ride a Tiger 800 mostly road.

Any full face style helmets out there with a MX style field of view?
Any comments appreciated.

Thanks,
Glenn
Fullface....non-MX or DS style....yes!. GMAX helmets have such a creature(s).Also, I have a HJC CS-R2...so far,so good!. GMAX's gm-11 DS helmet is also a good unit.If you find your head size at the upper end of the fitment chart ( EX: lets say your head measures 61cm....and you see a GMAX with a range of 60-61 cm vs. one indicating 61-62 cm...get the unit indicating 60-61.) The latter size will give you WAY to much play...IMO.....good luck.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:42 PM   #14
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I have a Shoei Hornet that I use for both dirt and tar, its great once you get over the price shock and I like the pull out liner so you can give it a good wash after sweating in it on a hot day .
Glad you like the Hornet!

I just ordered a Shoei Hornet. It should arrive tomorrow, I'll put in my 2 cents..........
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:43 PM   #15
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Are you selling something? This is the Flea Market. Not a gear recommendation forum.

This is the equipment forum.......soooooooooooooooo?.
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