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Old 03-06-2013, 11:57 AM   #16
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+1 on that. Trailtech speedo/tach and an aftermarket headlight would solve the issues. Are you sure it's an "S" model? There was a straight DR350 out for a while which was a trail bike -- no signals, mirrors, speedo, tach, etc.

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Use current bike, it seems like very small issues with that one, and you know the history of the bike.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:59 AM   #17
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The guys make a good point about just getting the neccesary fixes done on your bike. Most often what we need is right under our noses, but want we want, well that's another matter altogether :) A new headlight and a GPS for speedo, will set you back a couple hundred bucks. Ride the heck out of it this coming season and you'll have a better idea of what you're really looking for in a new motorcycle, especially if you've only had the DR350S for a month. It took me a year of riding a KLR 650 before I decided I wanted to lean more towards a 60%Offroad/40%Road bike as opposed to a 40%Offroad/60%Road bike. Not sure of your riding background so excuse me if I'm preaching to the choir
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:01 PM   #18
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He's looking for a reason to trade up, don't take the wind from his sails.... Since money is an issue I think the best idea I have heard is the XRL. It will give you decent on road comfort and still get dirty without pumping a bunch of money into it. The KLR is more comfy on road but takes considerable upgrades(money) to make it acceptable off road. At the very least suspension mods that don't come cheap, don't ask how I know......
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #19
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Use current bike, it seems like very small issues with that one, and you know the history of the bike.
Looks like I forgot to mention in the OP that I'm also looking for a little more powa. I guess it comes from the fact that I have a litre sport bike and I have far too much fun ripping it outa turns. If this wasn't a consideration I'd be happy to look into adding to the DR350, but I want a lit more zip.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #20
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That's a great looking bike...and right in your price range...yet another option to consider!

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Old 03-06-2013, 12:03 PM   #21
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+1 on that. Trailtech speedo/tach and an aftermarket headlight would solve the issues. Are you sure it's an "S" model? There was a straight DR350 out for a while which was a trail bike -- no signals, mirrors, speedo, tach, etc.
Good call, I guess I've assumed it was the S model with a few things removed. But I guess it could be the base model and someone ADDED tail light and headlight.

Touche sir, touche.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:13 PM   #22
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Looks like I forgot to mention in the OP that I'm also looking for a little more powa. I guess it comes from the fact that I have a litre sport bike and I have far too much fun ripping it outa turns. If this wasn't a consideration I'd be happy to look into adding to the DR350, but I want a lit more zip.
The WR250R is a dog off the line stock but once you do "the usual mods" (airbox, exhaust, programmer), you might be suprised by the hit when you twist the throttle. Modern water-cooled fuel-injected high-compression powerplants are a far cry from the old 250s (there's no comparison between my WR250R and my '83 XL250R). It won't be snappy at 50mph and up but on tighter single track, it's rare to run out of power (at least for me).
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:17 PM   #23
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I happen to love my 650L. although the throttle response is awful and the front suspension is really weak, those are the only real complaints I have. If you are tall, there is no more comfortable bike for cruising. It's the tallest seat height I have ever experienced on any bike. You can find them on craigslist in the high $2K range all day long

That said, I have a secret lust for a dual sported XR650R. The combination of water cooling, large oil capacity and far better suspension makes up for most of the issues of the L model while making a good platform for dual sport. While I thought I wanted lockable steering, turn signals, a cush hub, luggage capacity, and full instrumentation, I found out for what I do, some of those things aren't necessary and the L doesn't even have some of the others!

The DRZ is a versatile dual sport and they supposedly have 40 hp but I was unimpressed with the middling amount of torque.

Eventually, my 530EXCR will become my dual sport when wear out the L. It already does almost everything better than the L. With the Honda's seat, it would be better in every way

Alright, I could go on all day about my favorite topic, but I will step down now.......for a while

Edit: now you've done it. I may have to donate some plasma to put this beauty in my garage:

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Old 03-06-2013, 12:20 PM   #24
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Hi All,

If there's already a thread asking this, please feel free to redirect (but I couldn't find one).

After owning a DR350S for a month now I'm getting a feel for what I want in a Dualsport/Adventure bike. I'm hoping I can solicit advice from everyone here on what bikes I should try next.

My intended uses: Segments of the CDT and other extended (3-7 day) rides that include dirt, gravel, and pavement. I live in the front range of Colorado, so if there's a trail network I want to explore for the weekend on the western slope, I don't want to have to trailer my bike out there. I'm a light packer, so I don't need weighty hard bags. By light I mean 35 lbs of: food, water, water purifier, personal items, tent, sleeping bag, ground pad, and cook stove for a 5 day trek. I know tools and riding gear add a bit to that. To a lesser extent, I also want to do a bit of intermediate trail riding close to home (I'm thinking easy and intermediate OHV trails and single track). I'm hoping for a middleweight bike that can take being loaded down with gear and taken on extended journeys, then take the saddlebags off, possibly swap on some knobbies and it handles well on abusive trail ride.

I'd like an older bike for simplicity, pricetag, and the fact that I won't cry when (not if) I drop it. I'm hoping <$2.5k price tag,

I like the weight of my DR350S (310lbs wet) and the handling, but the lack of tachometer, speedo, and high beam are a big issue. I know I can add accessories and mod the hell out of a bike, but if there's a bike that fits the bill and already has the accessories I need - winner winner chicken dinner.

Kawa KLR 650 is definitely on my list to try, but I'm wondering if there's anything lighter... say, 350lbs ballpark wet? After all, the title of this post is Unreasonable Expectations. I know that longer hauls usually mean bigger gas tanks, and bigger gas tanks mean more wet weight. But humor me.

OH, this may go without saying, but it must be 4-stroke. Not that I'm lazy, I just can't bring myself to burn crude.

Thanks so much!
Add a Trailtech Vapor or something to the DR350. Then a pumper carb, big-bore, cam, and exhaust.

If you want even more, trade up to a DR650SE. They can be built for over 50WHP, and suspension can be built however you want. With the oil/air-cooling it works great. They run about 366 curb. Sometimes less. Weight is pretty easy to strip off this bike, and the bigger tanks typically carry a lot of the weight lower than the stock DR tank does. A GSXR 40F0 muffler drops over 7lb, compared to the stock DR muffler, and while not very loud, it flows well enough to use richer jetting. Stock DR mirrors, bars, and lights/signals are often swapped for better items too, and many of these better items are much lighter.

The DR-Z400S can be built up too, but doesn't have the wide-ratio gearbox of something like a DR...unless you want to throw a big chunk into a wide-ratio gearset. They ARE now available for the DR-Z.

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Old 03-06-2013, 01:30 PM   #25
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IMO - The bike you really need, you would have to build. You want/need a Ninja 250/300 motor, in an off-road capable chassis. I hate singles, for any street work. They all feel too vibey for prolonged periods of cruising.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:31 PM   #26
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That looks downright beautiful! The weight is unreal, and the weight to HP ratio is solidly better than my DR350 by almost 2lbs per HP less when wet. Also difficult to put a price on the fact that the bikes been gone through so thoroughly.

Good find.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:33 PM   #27
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IMO - The bike you really need, you would have to build. You want/need a Ninja 250/300 motor, in an off-road capable chassis. I hate singles, for any street work. They all feel too vibey for prolonged periods of cruising.
Maybe someday I can make that a reality, unfortunately I don't have the money or time for an endeavor like that.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:20 PM   #28
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That looks downright beautiful! The weight is unreal, and the weight to HP ratio is solidly better than my DR350 by almost 2lbs per HP less when wet. Also difficult to put a price on the fact that the bikes been gone through so thoroughly.

Good find.

Yeah that looks pretty unbeatable for what you're wanting to do, especially at that price. A few years ago I might have been tempted to drive to New Mexico for that bike.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #29
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From a bit of research, the DRZ400e seems like a likely candidate (thanks to all who pointed me that way). A bit of sportbike tech went into the pistons, the powerplant puts out 48 hp and she weighs in at 262lbs dry. That seems like a nice ratio.

Any input on these bikes? I've seen a couple in my area and I'll probably go take a look at 'em. They're coming in right in my budget ballpark for the early models.

Also, this forum is the worst thing to happen to my work productivity in a while... Lovin' it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:05 PM   #30
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As a DRZ400e owner, I love the bike. Fly-weight, it's not. 48 hp seems very optimistic. You're limited to one manufacturer for racks (see my sig line, not me but inmate Jackpiner57.) The subframe isn't up to massive loads.

The E did not come with a speedo, tach, high-beam or signals stock either. Some were made streetable carefully, others I've seen are a bit of a hack. If the electrics were not done carefully, expect some problems in that area. The stock battery is pretty weak -- you can easily flatten it by cranking the bike after a tip-over. Eddie Sisneros makes a battery box that will hold a battery with twice the cranking power.

You CAN ride them on the road, but they're not the best tool for that, particularly with the E gearing. A common complaint is that the bike really could use a sixth gear.

Part of the light weight comes from having light, thin engine cases. There are some fragile spots on them. A good skid plate is necessary, and case savers are a good idea.

And lastly, the stock seat is an absolute horror. Really one for the trash bin. Fortunately, Seat Concepts makes a good kit for the bike.



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From a bit of research, the DRZ400e seems like a likely candidate (thanks to all who pointed me that way). A bit of sportbike tech went into the pistons, the powerplant puts out 48 hp and she weighs in at 262lbs dry. That seems like a nice ratio.

Any input on these bikes? I've seen a couple in my area and I'll probably go take a look at 'em. They're coming in right in my budget ballpark for the early models.

Also, this forum is the worst thing to happen to my work productivity in a while... Lovin' it.
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