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Old 03-09-2013, 06:05 AM   #1
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Help identifying this trailer!

Any clues who might have made this trailer? Axels swing and it has a rubber bump stop suspension. Thanks in advance!


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Old 03-09-2013, 06:26 AM   #2
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I have no idea but I REALLY dig that design. I was designing a moto hauler for my FZ1 to haul my dirt bike to trails as a fun project and that picture cleans up a lot of small issues. I like the integrated chock/coupler mount, the simple struts that triangulate the rear end (as opposed to expensive rod ends I would have used).

It would be super simple to make one of those up, they sell the swing axles on ebay under motorcycle trailer, everyone has the tires, coupler, lights. Getting that channel bent would be a trip down to the sheet metal fabricator and then weld it up.

EDIT: I see how those axles work now, brilliant!! Can you get another shot close up of the suspension, I'd be interested if it looks like what I am thinking.

Appears the axle crossbar is the same profile as the center channel, so it appears you would just need to have one channel made, and cut the piece off for the axle tube. I wonder how the axles are located in their swing, friction?

EDIT2 lol: I have an idea, those eyelets for tie downs you could make the shank extra long and drill a oversized hole in the actual axle tube. The shank of the eyelet would keep the axle lateral and the oversized hole would keep it from binding. I think if you designed the axle tube pivot strong enough it would have enough meat to do most of the locating and prevent twisting and the bolt would be there as a backup.
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:14 AM   #3
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Looks home made to me.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:01 AM   #4
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Looks home made to me.
Definite mass produced to some extent, there is a sticker on it but all the info is faded beyond recognition except for the "complies with yada yada yada......"

More than likely a kit as it is all bolted together.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:30 PM   #5
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That trailer was made by a company in california in the 1970 by the name of TUFF Trailer ,I have one use it with bmw k100rs,r1100rs,yamaha fz1,klr650,and xr400.never had a problem with it track nice upgraded to 12"tire,come apart easily to cary inside my suv.its a keeper.






















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Old 03-09-2013, 02:04 PM   #6
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I will not use any trailer with under 12" wheels. I had a jet ski trailer with 10" wheels like that and I had so much trouble with bearings and tire blow outs until I upgraded to 13" wheels, then it was fine.

Other than the little wheels it looks quite useable.

Looks similar to these, maybe an older version?

http://stingertrailer.com/
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:11 PM   #7
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This trailer looks interesting for those, like myself, who live in a state that has trailer speed limits.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...cycle-trailer/

In Cali we are limited to 55 mph whenever towing ANYTHING so a foldable trailer would be nice for picking up, or dropping off a bike and then driving home on a 70 mph hiway. 15 mph really adds up on a long drive and they are really cracking down on the towing speed limit.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:01 PM   #8
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That trailer was made by a company in california in the 1970 by the name of TUFF Trailer ,I have one use it with bmw k100rs,r1100rs,yamaha fz1,klr650,and xr400.never had a problem with it track nice upgraded to 12"tire,come apart easily to cary inside my suv.its a keeper.
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Thanks much!!! Yea, I paid $75 for it and it had relativity new tires, rear lights and bearing buddies. Bearings look excellent, but the seals were seeping, so new just ordered.

I have a nice Aluminum 3 rail but travel with one bike often, this puts the bike right on the back bumper and low to the ground in the slipstream, so I am betting 5 mpg improvement to the 3 rail. First trip to the Smokey's in a month should pay for 2/3 of it in savings
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:43 PM   #9
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #10
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I will not use any trailer with under 12" wheels. I had a jet ski trailer with 10" wheels like that and I had so much trouble with bearings and tire blow outs until I upgraded to 13" wheels, then it was fine.
I towed a 750 pound bike, 1600 miles on little wheels and tires. Except for actually wearing them out on the way home, they were fine. Had one spare and bought the other in a WalMart in SLC.

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The smaller the wheel the faster it rotates at the same speeds.

The bearings spin really fast and the tires wear REALLY fast and that causes more blowouts.
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Remember you always need to check your tongue weight, even on small and light trailers. 10% of total weight needs to be on the tongue...at least.
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The smaller the wheel the faster it rotates at the same speeds.
The bearings spin really fast and the tires wear REALLY fast and that causes more blowouts.
Yeah, if the bearings are not maintained and the tires aren't the proper load range (there are two common load ranges in that size). I towed that bike in the heatwave last July, across half the country at 70-80 MPH (Utah has sections where that is legal and normal). No problems.

I'm not saying they don't turn more RPM but, they're also very usable if common sense and maintenance are applied.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:01 AM   #14
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Remember you always need to check your tongue weight, even on small and light trailers. 10% of total weight needs to be on the tongue...at least.
First thing I did was load the F800GS to check it, it was light, so axle already moved back 6". Going to weld a couple brackets and install a couple small fenders too, to reduce the spray in the rain, and run new wires to the lights. Then pressure wash and a rattle can or two of paint and I should be good for lots of years.
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The smaller the wheel the faster it rotates at the same speeds.

The bearings spin really fast and the tires wear REALLY fast and that causes more blowouts.
+1 physics is physics ain't no getting around that. I don't even like 12" wheels/tires because of that. It's why Kendon switched from 12" to 13" wheels on their trailers
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