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Old 04-19-2013, 04:14 AM   #16
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While its possible to outline a trip plan using the GPS itself or by using the trip-planning features on TomTom's Web site, has TomTom developed any offline desktop trip-planning software to go with it?

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Hey Daryl,

I think the new Rider comes with the Tyre desktop software for trip planning. Only runs on Windows. Tomtom didn't develop the software themselves, but have a deal with the creator to provide it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:09 AM   #17
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Thank you gents. I will make my purchase soon. Please let us know your thoughts when you get it. Also, the Amazon ad is vague. Please advise what comes in the box, i.e. mount, battery lead, etc.
Hi harleymac;

I've got one on pre-order from Amazon as well, and will post a review as soon as it arrives and I've had a chance to test it.

The Rider version for sale to the US on Amazon right now has:

  • The Rider unit.
  • Short RAM mount with U bolt for attachment to handlebars.
  • Powered dock.
  • Power cable for hardwiring to bike power.
  • USB home charger.
There's a deluxe "Premium Pack" version that also includes:


  • A car mounting kit (suction cup powered dock & cigarette lighter power cord).
  • An anti theft solution (a lock for the powered dock and a lockable replacement for the wingnut on the ram-mount)
  • A carrying case.
I haven't seen pricing or availability on the premium pack or the ability to order the anti theft solution separately in the US yet. The anti theft solution is available to direct order for customers in England directly from TomTom for 69.99.



Look at post 8 in this thread on TomTom's discussion forum to see images from the manual as to what comes in the boxes.



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Old 04-19-2013, 10:19 AM   #18
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Thanks Alec. Now the question, at least for me, is what headset I can use with the Rider. This link only shows Cardo Scala Rider models as well as Interphone. I have really been leaning towards an Autocom system as they have about the clearest sound I have heard. Hopefully I can still go this route and have the GPS and phone available in helmet.

Anyone out there have previous experience using an Autocom with the older versions of the Rider?
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:01 AM   #19
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I *believe* the new Rider uses an HFP/HSP Bluetooth Profile to link to a helmet headset for phone calls and spoken directions. But I can't even confirm that in the manual.

I don't see anything indicating it has an audio-in/out port to hard-wire to an Autocom unit, OR even a built-in speaker... ? I suspect it has neither, and the Car Dock has a build in speaker for if you choose to use the GPS in your car as well.

*If* the above is correct, you'll need an Autocom Bluetooth unit for the TomTom Rider to talk to the Autocom.

I have a Sena SMH10 on my helmet, and I'm sure that the Rider will talk to it using HFP/HSP to deliver spoken directions and its Cell Phone capabilities.

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Old 04-19-2013, 11:54 AM   #20
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*If* the above is correct, you'll need an Autocom Bluetooth unit for the TomTom Rider to talk to the Autocom.
Right after I posted that, someone from the UK posted on the TomTom forums about problems getting his Autocom to work with the new Rider. Bears watching.

http://discussions.tomtom.com/t5/RID...on/td-p/482372
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:15 PM   #21
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Thanks again. I will watch closely. SMH10-11 was my second choice and will be the way I go if the Autocom does not work.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:51 AM   #22
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Warning!!

The earlier Tomtoms have serious issues with the docking stations.
From the pictures it looks like they are using the same solution.

The problem is that the docking station doesn't lock down the GPS unit solid.
It allows it to wiggle.
In a street application this might be OK, but any offroading and this wiggling will get you into problem.

The docking station has a number of spring loaded pins that transfer power and signal to the GPS. The GPS has an equal number of receiving plates.
The wiggling will make the pins wear against the plates until there is a hole in them, and very erratic contact.

I have also been through 3 docking stations since they stopped delivering power.

The plates in the GPS are attached directly to the circuit board and not a spare.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:33 AM   #23
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TomTom has added the Rider to their US website:

http://www.tomtom.com/en_us/products...ider/index.jsp

They haven't listed a release date yet. The new Rider also isn't yet listed on TomTom's Support area. It is listed under the accessories area, but there are no actual accessories under the 2013 Rider category yet.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:56 AM   #24
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TomTom just posted on their forum that the official release/shipping date for the new Rider in the US is May 15th.

I'll review mine once it arrives.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:31 PM   #25
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Eh?

You're not listening are you?

(or maybe affiliated)
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:35 PM   #26
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You're not listening are you?

(or maybe affiliated)
You talkin' to me?

I've never owned a TomTom, and I don't work for them.

I saw your post about the dock, but I'm not planning on off-roading. I'm hoping the new version is more robust. Thank you for your warning? Is that what you were looking for?
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #27
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You talkin' to me?

I've never owned a TomTom, and I don't work for them.

I saw your post about the dock, but I'm not planning on off-roading. I'm hoping the new version is more robust. Thank you for your warning? Is that what you were looking for?
Just keep a close look for it while you still have warranty.

I have two friends who also have been through the worn out contacts and voltage regulator thingy. I thought the whole thing had scared TomTom away from the bike scene. They haven't had a booth at the bike shows the last 3 years.

Best of luck.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:16 PM   #28
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Just keep a close look for it while you still have warranty.

I have two friends who also have been through the worn out contacts and voltage regulator thingy. I thought the whole thing had scared TomTom away from the bike scene. They haven't had a booth at the bike shows the last 3 years.

Best of luck.
Will do!

Hopefully the new mount just looks similar, but has new electronics inside it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:29 PM   #29
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You talkin' to me?

I've never owned a TomTom, and I don't work for them.

I saw your post about the dock, but I'm not planning on off-roading. I'm hoping the new version is more robust. Thank you for your warning? Is that what you were looking for?
My contacts wore out in two years of street riding. It's a damn stupid system.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:09 AM   #30
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I don't know if they're reputable, but I found three online stores that have the new Rider for under $300:
http://www.valleysee...6?submit_email=
http://www.pcsuperst...-1GD005200.html
http://www.macmall.c...384~pdp.icbgabd

edit: I did a little researching and found that valleyseek.com has a terrible reputation. However, the other two stores look fine.
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