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Old 03-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #3691
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case saver

does anyone have a source for a case saver? i find photos all over the place of them mounted, are guys making them themselves, or are they hiding in the KTM fiche somewhere - part number? or buying them from....

kind of like this i'm talking about



and how about these type of case saver for the clutch cover etc...i know this is not a photo pf a KTM LC4, thats kind of my point...is anyone out making something for us?

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Old 03-21-2013, 08:58 AM   #3692
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Paul, it's already on your machine or should be, some of us grind them thinner to fit the 17T sprocket cause it's too small,

The thing is aluminum and grinds easily.

17/42T make an easy cruising gearing and less vibs for sure.

There are several threads on this and the mod.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649629
BTW there are some really heavy chains and good oilers out there.

I'd recommend the use of one. I'll go on your thread tonight with what worked for me.

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:00 AM   #3693
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does anyone have a source for a case saver? i find photos all over the place of them mounted, are guys making them themselves, or are they hiding in the KTM fiche somewhere - part number? or buying them from....

kind of like this i'm talking about



and how about these type of case saver for the clutch cover etc...i know this is not a photo pf a KTM LC4, thats kind of my point...is anyone out making something for us?

Look under "Engine Case" in the motor Fiche.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:04 AM   #3694
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Paul, it's already on your machine or should be, some of us grind them thinner to fit the 17T sprocket cause it's too small,

The thing is aluminum and grinds easily.

17/42T make an easy cruising gearing and less vibs for sure.

There are several threads on this and the mod.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649629

bill
bill i thought you'd be the first in on this, my bike is still with RAD MFG so haven't had a chance to pull it apart yet, so as i read other threads its is giving me ideas, good to know its there already, thanks
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:22 AM   #3695
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OK, so found the first one in two sizes, thanks for the direction...what i found and pricing right here

CHA.DAMPERSHEET 15/16T 92MM 03 58430047200 $9.74
CHAIN DAMPERSHEET 17T 92MM 03 58730047100 $9.71



so how about the the clutch and engine cover saver?

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Old 03-21-2013, 12:13 PM   #3696
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OK, so found the first one in two sizes, thanks for the direction...what i found and pricing right here

CHA.DAMPERSHEET 15/16T 92MM 03 58430047200 $9.74
CHAIN DAMPERSHEET 17T 92MM 03 58730047100 $9.71



so how about the the clutch and engine cover saver?

The LC 4 cases are initially built fairly tough and can take a beating... Not to say that they won't puncture with the perfect hit, but nobody has produced cover savers for this model because there was no demand... The few punctures I have heard of were easily repaired with a JB/quicksteel type product...


Your showing the Suzuki case covers which have a rep for how easily they puncture, hence the need for extra armor...

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Old 03-21-2013, 07:55 PM   #3697
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The LC 4 cases are initially built fairly tough and can take a beating... Not to say that they won't puncture with the perfect hit, but nobody has produced cover savers for this model because there was no demand... The few punctures I have heard of were easily repaired with a JB/quicksteel type product...


Your showing the Suzuki case covers which have a rep for how easily they puncture, hence the need for extra armor...
OK if they're not out there now i can stop looking, i will probably make some myself then just as extra insurance thanks for letting me know
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:13 PM   #3698
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OK if they're not out there now i can stop looking, i will probably make some myself then just as extra insurance thanks for letting me know
I look forward to seeing what you come up with...
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:44 PM   #3699
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Have you considered one of these?:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806155

I have personally crashed tested it and no damage to cases or fuel taps.

Plenty of damage to LC4 pilot (not sure how fast as I knocked myself out and cannot remember any of the accident)

Also good for storage and one of the inmates here modified it to make it a bit more secure.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #3700
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Have you considered one of these?:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806155

I have personally crashed tested it and no damage to cases or fuel taps.

Plenty of damage to LC4 pilot (not sure how fast as I knocked myself out and cannot remember any of the accident)

Also good for storage and one of the inmates here modified it to make it a bit more secure.
looks like sturdy stuff but at over $700 US to get it here i can make it myself if need be, if you look at my thread i have a bash plate already, and if need be i am a welder and fabricator so can make changes/ additions if required...what i was looking for was just simple covers like the ones that are available for other bikes just as additional coverage and strength. I will probably end up making something out of steel, aluminum or carbon fiber
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:08 AM   #3701
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Now i know how to upload pics (at last..) i want to show you my LC4 adventure:

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Is an '05 witch i bought new, but had to respray after a serious accident in '06.
Fine bike, but sold it a couple of years ago...

Today i own a different LC4.. (bought in jan. this year en restored en had it sprayed in Galoises colors etc.)

It 's a 660RR and has a lot more power compared with the 640adv!
And the noise is also a bit (...) more
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:57 AM   #3702
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The best way I have found to avoid the air filter hassle is either to be way in front or way behind.
Nup, doesn't work as the 640 self-dusts.

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Why not close the sides and eliminate the problem?
I ran my bike for years and years with the OEM configuration (closed side and snorkel in) and it still dusted up pretty bad. I have not noticed any increase in dusting after opening the side and removing the snorkel.

Carry several filter skins which can be changed in a couple of minutes. That will get you through a long dusty day (or days) without having to clean the filter itself.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:36 AM   #3703
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Timo, Why not close the sides, that's the problem.
You get enough air from the top and it's clean.
This thread, we plowed this ground, us old ones!!!

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...=123569&page=5

The link is to Happe's pic but the whole thread is good and I love the old arguements.

IMHO.
Open the top and then leave it alone.
You can flip the filter to get more miles once it grunges up, it will be clean on the bottom.

Easy to clean the stock filter with tank gas and reoil with engine oil.
Carry a couple of EMT gloves or the like.

Pull the fuel line, soak filter with gas, wring it out, di it again, set filter in sun or by the campfire, knock out any loose shit, reoil with engine oil and install.

GO!!!

And don't forget to fill your stove fuel bottle and reconnect the fuel line.

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Thanks for the link, I must have missed that thread when I was searching for info

I'll give it a try with the side closed back up, snorkel off and may make a screen for the top.....and use filter skins.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:45 PM   #3704
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Thanks for the link, I must have missed that thread when I was searching for info

I'll give it a try with the side closed back up, snorkel off and may make a screen for the top.....and use filter skins.
IMHO, no screen on top as it willl disturb the smooth air flow/ movement-motion into the box and to the filter.


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Old 03-25-2013, 04:55 AM   #3705
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IMHO, no screen on top as it willl disturb the smooth air flow/ movement-motion into the box and to the filter.


IMHO.
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Bill is correct to an extent. This really depends on the carb you have. If you are still running a stock bst 40 he is absolutely correct. In my experience if you open up the airbox to much you establish no pressure(vacuum) in the airbox. The reason this is bad is because that is the way that your carb operates. It creates a lag until that airflow velocity/pressure is reestablished. With a fcr/pumper carb open the intake and exhaust as much as possible and let that (and off course the motor itself) be your only restriction. As far as filtration goes, there are many theories, but as long as you are keeping the dirt out and the air coming in your, theory is as accurate as any other. Beek

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