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Old 03-17-2013, 12:28 AM   #91
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I would like to know the ratio of riders who have actually been hit by a tailgater when they did nothing in response, compared to how many riders suffered the consequences of trying to teach a tailgater a "lesson".
have been hit a couple of times

just in bumper to bumper trafic

i've realized that trying to educate other road users

is a waste of time

u can't teach em all

i will either twist the throttle/pull over/move around in lane/ wave them past

or the bad things ie. be agressive

that justs f$%% my day

just leyt them go

i hate having anybody behind me

so go out of my way to try to avoid this.

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Old 03-17-2013, 12:29 AM   #92
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I would like to know the ratio of riders who have actually been hit by a tailgater when they did nothing in response, compared to how many riders suffered the consequences of trying to teach a tailgater a "lesson".
Shit it is probably non existent. If you have good judgement you won't be performing quick stops almost ever. The times you do do a quick stop and the time you have a tailgater behind you being the same are probably pretty rare.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:09 AM   #93
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Here are the things I like in this thread:
1. Flashing brake lights. I believe they help avoid being rear-ended in slow traffic where you have few options. Not perfect, of course.
2. On the open road, standing up and/or weaving in your lane may be an attention grabber. If the tailgaiter can then safely pass, by all means wave him by.
3. Completely agree that getting mad or taking agressive action is not in your best interest. YOUR JOB IS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, and every situation is different. Realize that anger, however justified, reduces your riding ability just when you need to be your best.
4. It helps to realize that the person tailgating you REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO KILL YOU. They may be drunk, stoned or distracted; but killing another motorist they don't know is not in their best interest.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:44 AM   #94
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I would like to know the ratio of riders who have actually been hit by a tailgater...
They can't post anymore. They're dead.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:11 AM   #95
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You're going to need to explain how my idiot level was through the roof? Is it not a speed limit? As long as I don't exceed the posted speed, I'm not in violation? As a matter of fact, did you not make a previous statement about letting them pass? Was I not clear enough in my previous post when I said, "I slowed down to let them change lanes"?

Considering that you fail to type from what you think leads me to believe you have lost your train of thought to argue coherently and effectively. It would be wiser to just let this go before this thread ends up in the Basement for drifting far beyond topic.
Maybe DAKEZ think you should have moved to the left lane, since the tailgater was driving on imaginary rails in the right lane.
I never tailgate, but I pass the first chance I get if the car in front of me is keeping me from driving/riding the constant speed I want to do.

In my eyes you did the right thing by slowing down to a speed where passing you would be over in an instant and you didn't have to come to a complete stop.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:34 AM   #96
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I never tailgate.
that's a bold statement that I certainly don't believe, I'd like to say I never tailgate either, but I know better, its not possible NOT to tailgate is most metropolitan traffic, the majority of drivers follow at less than reaction time

3 seconds recommended 2 seconds is marginal
anything less than 1 second is most certainly tailgating (100ft @65mph) safe following distance @ 65 is the length of a football field
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:35 AM   #97
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Maybe DAKEZ think you should have moved to the left lane, since the tailgater was driving on imaginary rails in the right lane.
I would assume so but apparently DAKEZ isn't familiar with the "left lane is for passing only" law which is enforced in most states. I haven't seen a sign yet in VA but I still like to follow that guidance.

I'm sure DAKEZ wouldn't know much regardless since he's too busy flaming and building his post count instead of riding. So, an obligatory, "I'm a " for DAKEZ.

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Just for clarification, 55Mph is 88Kph. I know it doesn't contribute to the discussion directly but someone might find it useful.
Yeah, I was firing from the hip. Whenever you enter Canada, some POEs have the speed conversion billboards and I distinctly remember 100KMH=60MPH. It was a quick and dirty conversion, lol.

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I think that's what the OP did wrong, adapt to surrounding poor driving habits that is so common place today
What am I suppose to do about the teenager texting/talking on the phone while driving? How do I adapt to that? I'm certain that's a bigger concern than tailgating.

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that's a bold statement that I certainly don't believe, I'd like to say I never tailgate either, but I know better, its not possible NOT to tailgate is most metropolitan traffic, the majority of drivers follow at less than reaction time

3 seconds recommended 2 seconds is marginal
anything less than 1 second is most certainly tailgating (100ft @65mph) safe following distance @ 65 is the length of a football field
The one thing I do agree with you but metro is not rural. The moment you implement your 3-second rule in rush hour on an 8 lane super highway, that becomes an opening for a Latte-sipping Beemer driver. Riding a 2 lane country road, you can implement all the seconds you want
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:24 AM   #98
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Shit it is probably non existent. If you have good judgement you won't be performing quick stops almost ever. The times you do do a quick stop and the time you have a tailgater behind you being the same are probably pretty rare.
Obviously getting out of a tailgating situation quickly, or better yet, not getting into one in the first place is best.

With some posters saying they throw objects, use pepper spray, ect. ect., to "educate" tailgaters. I would think they are actually increasing their odds of getting hurt over just "letting it go".
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:10 AM   #99
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The one thing I do agree with you but metro is not rural. The moment you implement your 3-second rule in rush hour on an 8 lane super highway, that becomes an opening for a Latte-sipping Beemer driver. Riding a 2 lane country road, you can implement all the seconds you want
like I said, in metropolitan commuter traffic, not tailgating is not possible

I will avoid that type of traffic by going 100 miles out of my way if I can

that's bimmers when they have 4 wheels, yes, watch out for em, they have to drive 1 handed cause bimmers don't have cup holders
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:01 PM   #100
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It's so much better of an idea to just pull over and let them by. With all that has been going on lately with gun laws, and gun control there are so many pistol packing crazies on the road that are just looking for a reason to squeeze a couple hot ones off. I don't think that it's worth losing your life trying to teach somebody a lesson. I've been tailgated by the typical american bad-ass on his Hardly Davidson which I think is worse actually.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:55 PM   #101
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It may not be from tailgating...but I'm sure you know what I mean.
Let's keep our cool :-)

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Old 03-17-2013, 03:48 PM   #102
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It's so much better of an idea to just pull over and let them by. With all that has been going on lately with gun laws, and gun control there are so many pistol packing crazies on the road that are just looking for a reason to squeeze a couple hot ones off. I don't think that it's worth losing your life trying to teach somebody a lesson. I've been tailgated by the typical american bad-ass on his Hardly Davidson which I think is worse actually.
99% of what you're spouting is bullshit. You have a problem with paranoia.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:04 PM   #103
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99% of what you're spouting is bullshit. You have a problem with paranoia.
In my county in New York state the Sherriff's office typically does 75 to 100 concealed carry permits a month. For the last three months they have done anywhere from 300 to 500 a month.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:37 PM   #104
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In my county in New York state the Sherriff's office typically does 75 to 100 concealed carry permits a month. For the last three months they have done anywhere from 300 to 500 a month.
And that's bad why? All of those people have spotless records. They are law-abiding citizens. I carry. Every day. MI has almost 400,000 people with carry licenses. They don't go around shooting people, either. Except for those who legally defend themselves against criminals who threaten their lives.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:57 PM   #105
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And that's bad why? All of those people have spotless records. They are law-abiding citizens. I carry. Every day. MI has almost 400,000 people with carry licenses. They don't go around shooting people, either. Except for those who legally defend themselves against criminals who threaten their lives.
I carry as well, and have more money invested in firearms than I do in motorcycles. I just don't think it's a good idea for everyone to run out and get a concealed carry permit when they have zero fireams experience or training. Now for you or I that have been around firearms our entire life, and treat them as a lifestyle and not just a hobby, well then I'm all for it.
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