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Old 03-30-2014, 02:15 PM   #136
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Thanks all for the info about the 2up riding. Pretty much what i wanted to hear about the 1190r as thats the bike i was leaning towards. With such a big price difference i could get custom seats and still be way ahead.
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Old 03-30-2014, 03:59 PM   #137
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Thanks all for the info about the 2up riding. Pretty much what i wanted to hear about the 1190r as thats the bike i was leaning towards. With such a big price difference i could get custom seats and still be way ahead.
I don't think you need go to the expense of custom seats. The optional KTM Powerparts Ergo seats are extremely comfortable both for rider and passenger, and are about half the price of custom seats e.g Corbin. Also they have heaters in case you do any winter riding. There is a comfort kit package that includes the Ergo seats, KTM heated grips and a pretty good touring screen, costing 621.86 GBP in the UK. Your KTM dealer will be able to give you a quote for the 1190R with the "comfort kit package" installed. Imo best get the dealer to do the wiring, it's not straightforward.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:02 PM   #138
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Thanks all for the info about the 2up riding. Pretty much what i wanted to hear about the 1190r as thats the bike i was leaning towards. With such a big price difference i could get custom seats and still be way ahead.

I can echo all the positive comments regarding 2 up riding on the 1190. I have the R model and the one piece seat was found very comfy by my girlfriend. From a rider standpoint the bike is awesome with the extra passenger, even better than my previous bike, a Super Tenere. I'm struggling to find anything this bike WONT do amazingly well.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:28 PM   #139
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Why do you prefer KTM 1190 over new R 1200 GS?

The wife didn't find the Ergo seats anymore comfortable that the Std seats. And the cost of the Ergo is actually greater than most custom seats. After about 1100 miles in two weeks, I find that the Std rider seat is not as good as the stock 800XC. Windshields, seats, bars and pegs are all very personal. No oem can make them perfect for everyone. The 1190 will be a fantastic bike for the 15k-20k solo miles I'll ride this year.


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Old 03-30-2014, 04:42 PM   #140
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I don't think you need go to the expense of custom seats. The optional KTM Powerparts Ergo seats are extremely comfortable both for rider and passenger, and are about half the price of custom seats e.g Corbin. Also they have heaters in case you do any winter riding. There is a comfort kit package that includes the Ergo seats, KTM heated grips and a pretty good touring screen, costing 621.86 GBP in the UK. Your KTM dealer will be able to give you a quote for the 1190R with the "comfort kit package" installed. Imo best get the dealer to do the wiring, it's not straightforward.
I have an 1190R and the cut-out seat did not fit my size person at all. forcing me to sit on the back edge of the cut-out and making it difficult to move around. Custom seats are available at much lower cost than the Powerparts Ergo seat. James Renazco made mine and it's the best farkle for my bike so far.



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Old 03-30-2014, 05:59 PM   #141
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The guy I ride with has a new GS1200 and he loves the bike. We have done several 300 miles trips including another one today. The GS1200 is a great bike as is the 1190. He has 4 things on his bike that I wish was on the 1190.

Cruise Control
Shaft Drive
Larger Fuel Tank
36month warranty

The 1190 is faster and more powerful but his GS is not a slug either. I think the 1190 ergo seats are good and even better with sheep skin on it. Personally the 1190 is the right bike for me and and the GS is right bike for him. I also chose the KTM because of its off rode genes


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Old 06-27-2014, 05:21 PM   #142
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1190r

I have riden GS's for the last decade and the only one I felt had any soul was the 1100's and some 1150's. The newer ones are just too much of no excitement. I couldn't deal with the 4k+ rpm vibrations anymore. I just bought the 1190R and I can say it is light years different than any GS. GS's are great for what they are and as we all know 90% road 10% dirt is realistic. Every time I took my 2006 GS ADV off road I just felt unstable and out of place. I have ridden dirt since I was a kid and still could not get comfortable trying to convince myself that the GS ADV could do anything more than mild off road.

I have not had the 1190R long enough to give it a real opinion but out of the gate it commands more respect and lets you know it is a thoroughbred. I think with an experienced rider the 1190 is more than capable on and off road and I truly consider it a 50/50 bike which is what I wanted. I have mad respect for BMW and had amazing rides with mine but I feel like I have moved to the next level of capability with the 1190R. Super machines like any bike at this level will never be at the top of the reliability scale but will always serve up the fun factor. The 1190R seems to serve up larger portions that's for sure!! I just feel fortunate that I can experience all of these different bikes and I am sure I will be extolling the virtues of something else in a couple of years, that's the fun of this hobby!! Cars, Guitars and Motorcycles I say!!!
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:15 PM   #143
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R12gsa vs 1190r

You guys should really read the latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News... Mostly off-road comparison of the 1200GSA and 1190R.

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Old 06-28-2014, 09:13 PM   #144
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Both great bikes

and anyone is privileged to ride either one despite their issues. Really appreciate both for different reasons. For me, the R is more dirt capable, lighter, safer, and sport mode is simply awesome.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:08 AM   #145
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Just proves that the KTM 1190 is aimed at the GS buying market.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:03 PM   #146
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Why do I prefer my 1190 R over a new GS?

Having been stranded by a late model GS twice (with failed final drives in very remote places), I'll say the CHAIN DRIVE.

After a couple of years of NO MORE FINAL DRIVE failures, perhaps I'll revisit it.

That said, honestly two different tools for the same job and choice should depend on how/where you plan to ride.
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