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Old 07-14-2013, 03:46 PM   #91
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For those who like facts (Motorrad 7/2013)

KTM 1190 Adventure 238 kg, 0-200 km/h 10,9s
BMW 1200GS 246 kg, 0-200km/h 14,4s

Me, I chose the 1190 because it's very fast and was available at a very good price. They both have their strengths in different areas
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #92
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This is easy

The KTM was more fun to ride, its a hooligan special
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:27 PM   #93
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price of the R in Thailand is around Euro 33,000 or around USD 44,800

BMW GS LC is about the same...

A used, good condition GSA 2008 goes for about Euro 21,000 or USD 29,000...

No doubt, an adventure biker here needs to be a millionaire..
jesus... at that price, i could just about open up a business and import them from australia and make a profit
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:05 AM   #94
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I think this thread is a good reason to choose the ktm over the gs http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884688
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:27 AM   #95
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I think this thread is a good reason to choose the ktm over the gs http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884688
True so true
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:47 AM   #96
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Guys this may be trivial but curious what key chain you use attached to your key? Reason I ask is they gave me a KTM key chain with a rubber material logo'd key chain and its just awkward. Want something that doesn't damage the bike yet soft and doesn't interfere with the steering movement.

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Old 07-17-2013, 05:37 PM   #97
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For those of you who have bought the 1190, how are you finding the level of heat from the rear of the engine? I had a test ride on one earlier this week and found the backs of my lower legs were virtually cooking from the heat. Anyone else experienced this?
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:06 PM   #98
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For those of you who have bought the 1190, how are you finding the level of heat from the rear of the engine? I had a test ride on one earlier this week and found the backs of my lower legs were virtually cooking from the heat. Anyone else experienced this?
This has been asked on quite a few threads, but it is not a deal breaker or anything to worry about - not even in the temperatures we are having in the UK right now (30C).

I have had my 1190R since late May and have put 3500 miles on it so far - riding in all conditions; London traffic, motorways, A and B roads plus a long trip to Europe.

When you are sat in traffic on a hot day (more than 25C) you can feel some heat on your lower left thigh - not too hot or a distraction, but it is noticeable. Once you start moving, it soon disappears. The important thing is that the engine temp does not move above 4 bars - whatever you are doing, even in traffic, so the cooling is very efficient and certainly better than my old 990.

Posters have suggested the PowerParts KTM heated (no pun intended) seat, which raises the height by 2cms makes a difference, others have attached a plastic sheet to the frame.

For now I am fine and I am more than happy with the bike. At the end of the day I am sat on a 150BHP engine that will pretty much (and surprisingly) beat anything else on the road, so a little heat now and then is fine.

Also at the end of the day, it is a motorbike!! And one with a GS beating engine (among many other things)
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:12 PM   #99
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This has been asked on quite a few threads, but it is not a deal breaker or anything to worry about - not even in the temperatures we are having in the UK right now (30C).
I'm not so sure about that. I felt the heat on the backs of my legs, especially the left, and whilst I accept it was a hot day when I rode the 1190 it was uncomfortable at town speeds. I use my current bike for a number of things including instructing so it will spend some time following restricted mopeds around at town speeds. I don't want my legs to be well done everytime I ride it.

The KTM centre in Hemel are happy enough for me to ride the bike again on a cooler day, so I will be doing that, when this heatwave goes away
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #100
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lol heatwave 30C.. lol....

one of the days last summer was 46C, on average it was 39.5C

30C is nice..
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:08 PM   #101
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lol heatwave 30C.. lol....

one of the days last summer was 46C, on average it was 39.5C

30C is nice..
It's all relative
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:12 PM   #102
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Just Curious though, I have my 1190R in the mail atm, (3 to 4 weeks away).. has anyone tried to rectify the heat? Like does ceramic coated exahaust with a less restrictive pipe make any difference?

I like the 1200 gs, but i think its more a more road orientated market, the KTM is for hoons, like myself :P
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:01 AM   #103
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Just Curious though, I have my 1190R in the mail atm, (3 to 4 weeks away).. has anyone tried to rectify the heat? Like does ceramic coated exahaust with a less restrictive pipe make any difference?

I like the 1200 gs, but i think its more a more road orientated market, the KTM is for hoons, like myself :P
The 'problem' is no different than any other v-twin I have owned, they get a bit warm around the rear cylinder.

I think its due to no air-flow through that area of the frame.

Havent had enough time to see what i can do to abate it but its not an issue to me as its no worse than my F800GS was on a hot day.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:40 PM   #104
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I would love a new Kato, but my 990 is the one for some time yet.

Melbourne, hot........

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Old 08-10-2013, 12:32 AM   #105
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I would love a new Kato, but my 990 is the one for some time yet.

Melbourne, hot........
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