Fitting on oil filter housing..

pdxmotorhead · 03-14-2013, 09:58 AM

I noticed on the front of the housing part of the case for the oil filter is a plug, In some dry sump systems on cars this is where I would put a oil pressure fitting? Filter pressure should be oil main pressure correct?

Theory's ? Thoughts?

Dave

Zuber · 03-14-2013, 09:57 PM

Have to check, but not so on this motor. The filter is before the oil pump and may be under suction. For a pressure sensor, why not Tee off the location of the factory pressure switch?

pdxmotorhead · 03-14-2013, 11:18 PM

Cause the oil pump fitting is easy to get at.. :)

I was going to use the pressure sender port with a T,, but while changing my oil got to looking at that fitting.. I hope the filter is after the supply pump like most engines,, suction on a paper filter is bad..

Cheers
Dave

Orangecicle · 03-15-2013, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead

suction on a paper filter is bad..

Which is a good reason to run a Scott's!

DirtyADV · 03-15-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead

. I hope the filter is after the supply pump like most engines,, suction on a paper filter is bad..

Would guess its suction since the filter collapse if restricted cause of water contamination.

/Johan

pdxmotorhead · 03-15-2013, 04:29 PM

Could be either,, if its under pressure,, its pressure from the outside in,, so it would collapse when the water fouled the element.

Hopefully I am past that problem for a while with the new CJ kit in there! :)

DAve

Masa · 03-15-2013, 11:12 PM

Pressure pump is before the filter and oil flows from outside to inside of filter.

Oil pressure taken from the filter housing wouldn't inform about clogged filter - right?

pdxmotorhead · 03-15-2013, 11:23 PM

I figured if you check it with a new filter and the filter water fouls the pressure should climb letting you know its plugged..

But on thinking on it,, it may just dump all the oil out the relieve valve.. Hmm.

Dave

gefr · 03-16-2013, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead

I figured if you check it with a new filter and the filter water fouls the pressure should climb letting you know its plugged..

But on thinking on it,, it may just dump all the oil out the relieve valve.. Hmm.

Dave

Relieve valve? is there a relieve valve?

Masa · 03-16-2013, 04:01 AM

I suppose you would get higher pressure on low rpms, before the pressure regulator's working window.

You could tap the line for the gauge to either of the cam tensioner bolts, as others have done.

pdxmotorhead · 03-16-2013, 02:36 PM

Ok,, I admit it,, I'm a gauge freak.. So I have a new more better idea for that port, I'm going to use it for an Oil Temp guage.. and put a T on the pressure sensor (Factory location) for the pressure guage..

Eventually I'll have, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Exhaust temp, Cyl head temp. Via a single quad display, havnt decided on needles or digital yet... Its a sickness..

Dave

Katoom72 · 03-16-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead

Ok,, I admit it,, I'm a gauge freak.. So I have a new more better idea for that port, I'm going to use it for an Oil Temp guage.. and put a T on the pressure sensor (Factory location) for the pressure guage..

Eventually I'll have, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Exhaust temp, Cyl head temp. Via a single quad display, havnt decided on needles or digital yet... Its a sickness..

Dave

Damn, is that some catchy virus or something?

pdxmotorhead · 03-17-2013, 10:29 AM

I don't know,, I guess its a racing thing,, I maintain track cars for other people on the side, while I don't tune with them knowing all the temps and pressures has helped me head off bad things before they happen..

Now I feel like I forgot something if I don't know the voltage, oil pressure etc..

Cheers..

Dave

03-14-2013, 09:58 AM	#1
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	Fitting on oil filter housing.. I noticed on the front of the housing part of the case for the oil filter is a plug, In some dry sump systems on cars this is where I would put a oil pressure fitting? Filter pressure should be oil main pressure correct? Theory's ? Thoughts? Dave

03-14-2013, 09:57 PM	#2
Zuber Zoob Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Main Street, Shedd, Oregon Oddometer: 988	Have to check, but not so on this motor. The filter is before the oil pump and may be under suction. For a pressure sensor, why not Tee off the location of the factory pressure switch? __________________ "Dad, can I get a motorcycle when I grow up?" "Son, you can't do both"

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03-14-2013, 11:18 PM	#3
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	Cause the oil pump fitting is easy to get at.. :) I was going to use the pressure sender port with a T,, but while changing my oil got to looking at that fitting.. I hope the filter is after the supply pump like most engines,, suction on a paper filter is bad.. Cheers Dave

03-15-2013, 04:29 PM	#6
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	Could be either,, if its under pressure,, its pressure from the outside in,, so it would collapse when the water fouled the element. Hopefully I am past that problem for a while with the new CJ kit in there! :) DAve

03-15-2013, 11:12 PM	#7
Masa Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2011 Location: F1nland Oddometer: 253	Pressure pump is before the filter and oil flows from outside to inside of filter. Oil pressure taken from the filter housing wouldn't inform about clogged filter - right?

03-15-2013, 11:23 PM	#8
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	I figured if you check it with a new filter and the filter water fouls the pressure should climb letting you know its plugged.. But on thinking on it,, it may just dump all the oil out the relieve valve.. Hmm. Dave

03-16-2013, 04:01 AM	#10
Masa Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2011 Location: F1nland Oddometer: 253	I suppose you would get higher pressure on low rpms, before the pressure regulator's working window. You could tap the line for the gauge to either of the cam tensioner bolts, as others have done.

03-16-2013, 02:36 PM	#11
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	Ok,, I admit it,, I'm a gauge freak.. So I have a new more better idea for that port, I'm going to use it for an Oil Temp guage.. and put a T on the pressure sensor (Factory location) for the pressure guage.. Eventually I'll have, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Exhaust temp, Cyl head temp. Via a single quad display, havnt decided on needles or digital yet... Its a sickness.. Dave

03-17-2013, 10:29 AM	#13
pdxmotorhead ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Portland OR Oddometer: 267	I don't know,, I guess its a racing thing,, I maintain track cars for other people on the side, while I don't tune with them knowing all the temps and pressures has helped me head off bad things before they happen.. Now I feel like I forgot something if I don't know the voltage, oil pressure etc.. Cheers.. Dave