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Old 03-14-2013, 03:03 PM   #16
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Pissed

I've done it before. When people nearly take me out, I assume it was accidental. If I see them take attitude, etc. I get pissed. I've kicked plenty of cars. I'm not saying it is the wise thing to do, but I'll probably do it again.

I've called highway patrol before thru my Sena while staying behind an offender and received no action by the police. Seems that attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon would rank a little higher on their give a shit list. Oh well.

I keep memory of select (2) vehicles and their license plates for if I ever bump into them again... like in a parking lot.

Glad to hear it was only a near miss, Flysniper.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:10 PM   #17
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"stupid uncle-fuckers"

I now have a new favorite term.

And I agree with ItsNottheBike, call the cops, tail them from a distance, and watch the fun. Anyone who is that unstable, will NOT take being pulled over well. BTDT

FYI 1 in 17 people you interact with every day are seriously mentally ill.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:45 PM   #18
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The backstory:

I was sitting about eight feet behind a car stopped at a redlight; center lane heading straight across (left most lane for left turners, right lane for right turns).

I was about four feet away from the left border of my lane.
I see a black Ford Escape rolling up behind me. It slides over to the right, keeps coming up and attempts to shove me out of the way, but stops short.

I'm thinking I'll clear this situation once the light changes and traffic allows...

The light changed, but Ford had dropped back to a decent distance, but I'm planning on adding a car or two between us ASAP.

Traffic clears town (2 lane highway) and wicks up to 65mph. The Ford is on my ass again. We come to a straight away with passing zone, no oncoming traffic. I check my six, move over to the right to give the SUV plenty of room to go around.... which they did.... off the road on my right side. And instead of just completing the pass and then coming over, the driver yanks the wheel in my direction while I'm even with her window... and she's freaking looking directly at me and smiling. Last I looked there might have been enough room to just slip my fingers in between her door and my mirror (still at 65mph in a 45mph zone).

I punch the bar hard and dive out of the way while going for the brakes. She slams her brakes trying to make me hit the rear of her SUV. I stayed with the dive as long as I could, righted the bike and full on both brakes. I damned near hit her. By now I was a little boxed in by on coming traffic



I tried letting her go on, but she kept hitting the gas and then slamming the brakes.... I'm really pissed, but just drop way back and she finally goes on.

We roll up to another intersection with a line of stopped cars. Again with a center, right turn and left turn. She takes center, stops and I roll up next to her door and launch a kick as she turns into the left lane and punches it.

I follow, mad mad mad as hell. She goes up the road just a little, loops through a church parking lot and back to the intersection where she's trapped by traffic.

I get next to her window and look her eye to eye.... the pasty white, big, fat lardassed lump cowers away from the rolled up glass.

I screamed something (no idea what) and launched a couple of kicks to her door, broke the mirror and was working on punching the glass in when she sped off. (I'm still on the bike.)

I started off after her, but some little beam of sanity must have made it's way to some part of my brain and I instead turned around and vacated the area post haste.

...I think this is relatively accurate... I can say I did nothing to bring this on and was actually trying to let this idiot go bother someone else.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:38 PM   #19
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The backstory:

I was sitting about eight feet behind a car stopped at a redlight; center lane heading straight across (left most lane for left turners, right lane for right turns).

I was about four feet away from the left border of my lane.
I see a black Ford Escape rolling up behind me. It slides over to the right, keeps coming up and attempts to shove me out of the way, but stops short.

I'm thinking I'll clear this situation once the light changes and traffic allows...

The light changed, but Ford had dropped back to a decent distance, but I'm planning on adding a car or two between us ASAP.

Traffic clears town (2 lane highway) and wicks up to 65mph. The Ford is on my ass again. We come to a straight away with passing zone, no oncoming traffic. I check my six, move over to the right to give the SUV plenty of room to go around.... which they did.... off the road on my right side. And instead of just completing the pass and then coming over, the driver yanks the wheel in my direction while I'm even with her window... and she's freaking looking directly at me and smiling. Last I looked there might have been enough room to just slip my fingers in between her door and my mirror (still at 65mph in a 45mph zone).

I punch the bar hard and dive out of the way while going for the brakes. She slams her brakes trying to make me hit the rear of her SUV. I stayed with the dive as long as I could, righted the bike and full on both brakes. I damned near hit her. By now I was a little boxed in by on coming traffic



I tried letting her go on, but she kept hitting the gas and then slamming the brakes.... I'm really pissed, but just drop way back and she finally goes on.

We roll up to another intersection with a line of stopped cars. Again with a center, right turn and left turn. She takes center, stops and I roll up next to her door and launch a kick as she turns into the left lane and punches it.

I follow, mad mad mad as hell. She goes up the road just a little, loops through a church parking lot and back to the intersection where she's trapped by traffic.

I get next to her window and look her eye to eye.... the pasty white, big, fat lardassed lump cowers away from the rolled up glass.

I screamed something (no idea what) and launched a couple of kicks to her door, broke the mirror and was working on punching the glass in when she sped off. (I'm still on the bike.)

I started off after her, but some little beam of sanity must have made it's way to some part of my brain and I instead turned around and vacated the area post haste.

...I think this is relatively accurate... I can say I did nothing to bring this on and was actually trying to let this idiot go bother someone else.
She will probly think twice next time. Those electric mirrors are expensive. She'll be out 500 bucks at least. Too bad you didn't get the glass as well.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:59 PM   #20
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And if a cop saw this or if she had witnesses you'd be in a world of trouble, your word against hers and a LOT of damage to her property.

Better still:

You may not be able to get an address and you may not decide to extract extra-judicial justice on this issue. She may or may not notice that she is being stalked and she may or may not worry. Of course, you have no idea what she's talking about, your word against hers.



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Old 03-14-2013, 06:22 PM   #21
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I have been sorely tempted to react like you in the same circumstances. I try to remember a story my neighbor told me about hitting a car, that attempted to run her over in a crosswalk, with her bag. A cop witnessed the scene and told her that if the driver returned and complained about her, he would charge the driver with a civil offense, for not yielding, but he would charge her with a criminal offense for hitting the car. Think twice, especially in a public area.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:12 PM   #22
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Something I learned when I was in the Coast Guard.

When law enforcement responds to such an incident, all they know for sure is the physical evidence they can see. A moment of anger can make the victim the legally guilty party.

Remember, if its not self defense, its assault.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:09 PM   #23
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I have been sorely tempted to react like you in the same circumstances. I try to remember a story my neighbor told me about hitting a car, that attempted to run her over in a crosswalk, with her bag. A cop witnessed the scene and told her that if the driver returned and complained about her, he would charge the driver with a civil offense, for not yielding, but he would charge her with a criminal offense for hitting the car. Think twice, especially in a public area.
Typical cop think. He witnessed the original offense and did nothing because he probably hadn't finished his donut and coffee and penalized the victim for defending herself.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:18 PM   #24
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I used to ride with metal knuckled gloves for just such occasions.

.....my crowning glory was when a guy cut me off and I called him out on it he flashed back "Yeah, fuck you, what are you going to do?"

I drug him out of his window in front of his girl and left him laying there in the road.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:15 AM   #25
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I agree about calling the cops. I was driving through a grocery store parking lot and a minivan tore through at about 40 almost hitting me so I honked my horn at him. He came around and started yelling at me. I got out my cell phone and called 911 told them what happened and gave them his tag number. For a while he stuck around yelling at me until the dispatcher told me to talk to her and not him so he tore off. She said that the cops would pay a visit to his home.

The best thing to do on a motorcycle would be to find a busy place and stop to make the call. That way if the asshole came looking for trouble other people might give them pause.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:45 AM   #26
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Being able to defend yourself against someone trying to kill you, regardless of method, seems like the best argument for carrying.

I had a guy make numerous efforts to run me into a guardrail, and chase me for nearly twenty miles on I-35 south of Austin. After I lost him I called the cops and gave them his license number. Apparently you have to wait until they actually run over you before the cops will pay attention.





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Old 03-15-2013, 09:48 AM   #27
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So far there have been no visits from the police, I passed a few on the bike today and didn't get pulled over.... so far, so good...

Normally I'd have found a safe spot and called, but man, this time I just blew up and lost it completely. She just had to be on something, a normal person wouldn't do what she did.

Still, I was very stupid. How easy it would have been to get smashed up, run over, maimed/killed. It nearly happened anyway. I got to thinking, I had only a couple of inches between her door and the end of my handlebar. Well, my side cases are just as wide as my bars and the SUV flared out at the rear wheel wells. When she came over, the bike went into a pretty decent shimmy before I countersteered. Now I'm wondering if she didn't contact my side case, causing the shimmy (the bike is usually very stable). It's a very sobering thought, especially when it was done intentionally.

Had I not behaved the way I did, I would love to get the cops on her. As it is I'm afraid of getting into deeper crap than I could get out of.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #28
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:03 AM   #29
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Reminds me of an incident that a friend of mine got into when we were about 18 or 19.

He was big ol' teddy bear type, about 6' 2", 240 lbs. He was riding his bicycle beside his walking girlfriend, and they were arguing. A car purposefully cut him off nearly hitting him, then flipped him off while cursing at him. My friend went into full rage mode, chasing after the car on his bicycle. He caught the car in traffic at a red light about 1.5 blocks up. He ghost rode the bicycle into the back of the car, broke out the driver's window with his fist, and proceeded to pummel the guy's face through the opening. There was a lot of blood.

None of us had ever seen him angry, much less in a rage.

Never mess with a guy arguing with his woman...
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:42 PM   #30
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Had I not behaved the way I did, I would love to get the cops on her. As it is I'm afraid of getting into deeper crap than I could get out of.
and she dismisses it and theres no evidence, so whats gonna happen? Nothing, I think you got her better now. Though, I suspect shes going to pull it off again at some other motorcyclist, crazy people never "learn".
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