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Old 03-21-2013, 06:49 PM   #31
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Observed first hand at Rallies...
Overtightening a Canyon Dancer can bugger up the throttle tube on a Stella right now. It is a pretty simple fix involving removal of the headset cover and straightening of a thin brass looking guide. You'll know right away when it happens; once fixed you won't overtighten again. Better to use the seat pin and a couple of those cinch straps once you have the Canyon Dancer just snug enough to hold the Scooter up.
Make sure the fuel tap is off before you transport!
Many a Lambretta have suffered broken alloy headsets from overtightening a Canyon Dancer. Better to use cinch straps below the Headset.
Ratcheting straps suck, the manual type are a lot easier to judge tension.
That metal flange DaBinChe uses is also available at Tractor Supply.
Any loose strap will slap the paint enough to bugger it up, take a roll of 3M Super 33+ electrical tape to hold down any loose straps.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:31 PM   #32
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Board is a 2"x8"x8' and the sides are 1"x4". If you want a wider ramp you can use two of the aluminum flange on a wider board or two boards screwed together which should also give you double the load capacity. With my single setup I have loaded 500# street bikes with no problems. My current bike, W650, is lowered an inch at both ends and clears the ramp with no problems with the tailgate removed, my truck's rear end is also about 2" higher then stock because I have RoadMaster spring assist installed.

here is what mine set up looks like:


you can see how I have the angle cut to clear the bike as it gets to the lip/flange/top of the ramp and also the hex screws I put in to give traction:


with out tailgate:


with tailgate:

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Old 03-24-2013, 08:10 PM   #33
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Trial run today. It all worked. We had our son-in-law there "just in case"... the Blonde and I handled it fine.

Here's the link:

http://captnjim.blogspot.com/2013/03...e-loading.html

And a preview...



The ramp from Harbor Freight was plenty solid with the bike and my weight on it at the same time.

Thanks again for all the suggestions and tips. All were considered and appreciated.

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Old 03-26-2013, 12:48 PM   #34
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2EfB...e_gdata_player
Check this out before you use ramps
None of those people were going fast enough, that is the problem! But seriously, I would not ever recommend riding the bike up the ramp.

It looks like you picked a nice looking ramp, particularly because of the extra width. I like to power the bike up the ramp very slowly while I am walking beside it. Do the reverse on the way down, with your hand on the brake.

Heavy bikes can be a little tricky coming down because you can only cover the front brake, and most of the weight is on the back wheel. The front tire will slide a little bit if you get going too fast and then jab the brake. I suspect you will not have this problem with the PX150's because they are not very heavy.

Take it slow and easy, and you will be fine.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:24 PM   #35
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Ah, we scooter pilots can cover both brakes at the handlebars. Other than the strapping situation, it was really a non-event with the ramp.

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Old 03-26-2013, 07:49 PM   #36
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Captn Jim, where do you put the ramp after you have loaded the bikes?
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:23 PM   #37
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Captn Jim, where do you put the ramp after you have loaded the bikes?
Folded, on the floor of the pickup bed, diagonal between the bikes. Snug fit, but it just goes.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:43 AM   #38
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Wow.

Some of those pics are scary. I spent a few bucks and I am happy with my trailer.....



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Old 03-27-2013, 04:58 PM   #39
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I understand that. I am happy with my Featherlite trailer, too. It just happens to be 1348 miles from us right now. I will be renting a trailer to get the bikes back to our Texas home, since the truck bed will be occupied with the 5th wheel. We have plenty of experience double towing...



We didn't bring the cargo trailer with us this trip.

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:52 PM   #40
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I used the Cycle Gear ramp and it works fine. I paid something like $59 on sale. It comes with the strap to secure it to the truck. I also use a milk crate as a step when I walk the bike up high enough.



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Old 04-01-2013, 12:17 PM   #41
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Pick-up bed?

Don't be a wuss.






















Actually I use a utility trailer with homemade ramp. I don't like Canyon Dancers so I used the mirror mounts to locate eyebolts close to the center steering shaft so less pressure on the throttle tubes.















btw, I'm the original owner and it's now for sale. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...11&postcount=1
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:09 PM   #42
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I used the Cycle Gear ramp and it works fine. I paid something like $59 on sale. It comes with the strap to secure it to the truck. I also use a milk crate as a step when I walk the bike up high enough.



I really like your truck, wish I had one like it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:05 AM   #43
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I endorse those who advocate locating the rear wheels of the pickup vehicle in a ditch or gutter. 40 years ago I owned a Honda TN360 half ton micro truck, and I used to do either that -- or back-up to an earthern ramp. I had (still own) a heavy timber plank to which I had bolted a metal lip with angle to match the truck-bed lip (or really- tailgate).

As has been stated the sump clearance of the two-wheeler has to be watched as its mid-point passes over that lip.

There are two other options:

Tipping Ramp.
This features Tie-Down anchors to stabilize the two-wheeler as its brought to a halt at the top of the ramp. After securing the two-wheeler, the lower-end of the ramp is jacked-up higher ---- sometimes to make it level with the bed of the pickup. In any manner, this eliminates the sump clearance problem.

Motorcycle Lift.
Problem here is that something else (or second lift) is required at destination. Using the lift, the two-wheeler is vertically raised to the bed height, and rolled aboard.



TyreDowns
- Yet another way to secure a two-wheeler to pickup or trailer.





You just need to get the curved section up over the top of one tyre -- preferably the rear wheel. The front get butted up against a stop or front holder.
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