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Old 01-15-2015, 11:36 AM   #1
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What type of connectors are the SAS and canister dongles?

I want to make my own dongles. What are the stock connectors? I would like to keep the stock harnesses intact so I can put the sh!t back on if I need to have warranty work done. For my '14 1190 Adventure....
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:05 PM   #2
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I have not pulled them off the bike yet to figure it out but, they should be some derivative of the diagnostic connector, which is a B6AP for the tool side and a B6AS on the bike side.

If no one else knows/has figured it out I'll pull them off this weekend and check.

It would be great to get some known working resistor values as well, the manual does not provide any specifications for testing the valves...
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:07 AM   #3
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I have not pulled them off the bike yet to figure it out but, they should be some derivative of the diagnostic connector, which is a B6AP for the tool side and a B6AS on the bike side.

If no one else knows/has figured it out I'll pull them off this weekend and check.

It would be great to get some known working resistor values as well, the manual does not provide any specifications for testing the valves...
Cool, please look at them. It's going to be good riding weather here so I won't be doing any exploratory surgery on her for awhile.

It looks like 22k and 28k resistors are being used. Measuring the resistance on the valves probably will close to those values.

It would be cool if someone would measure the resistance on the after market dongles...

Does ECU care if the valves are opened or closed? I would think not because dongle that are sold have only one resistor.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:42 AM   #4
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Once I know what the connectors are I'll make a few batches.
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:05 PM   #5
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Once I know what the connectors are I'll make a few batches.
Very nice!

Thanks!
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:26 PM   #6
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I forgot they are buried under the tank. I'll be on a ride tomorrow to drain the tank and then dig in Sunday / order Monday.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:52 PM   #7
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I forgot they are buried under the tank. I'll be on a ride tomorrow to drain the tank and then dig in Sunday / order Monday.
I understand! Just got back from putting about 130 miles on her today. Great ride!
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:24 PM   #8
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Evap valve measures 26ohm and sas valve measured 20ohm. Connectors are:

SAS: B2BS

O2: B4AS

Evap plug I'm not sure on.... The wiring harness side it's a TE AMP 962069-3:
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Having a hard time finding the matching plug...
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Old 01-19-2015, 08:33 AM   #9
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Evap valve measures 26ohm and sas valve measured 20ohm. Connectors are:

SAS: B2BS

O2: B4AS

Evap plug I'm not sure on.... The wiring harness side it's a TE AMP 962069-3:
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Having a hard time finding the matching plug...
Thanks!

I've sent some emails to suppliers, I'll let you know what I find out.
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:09 PM   #10
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Thanks!

I've sent some emails to suppliers, I'll let you know what I find out.
I have an inquiry open with Corsa Technic already. They are going to find the plug for me, I'll be ordering the SAS/O2 plugs at the same time and I'll make 10 full dongle kits (1 kit for me).
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:12 AM   #11
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I have an inquiry open with Corsa Technic already. They are going to find the plug for me, I'll be ordering the SAS/O2 plugs at the same time and I'll make 10 full dongle kits (1 kit for me).
Cool. Please let me know how much you are going to sell a kit for, when you know. I may be your first costumer.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:34 PM   #12
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Seems like 28k will work for both Evap and SAS. Also bike runs fine without either dongle but, you get CEL. No warnings popped up but I didn't do extended ride without the valves yet.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:57 PM   #13
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Not sure why you wouldn't just buy these from Ken at PowerCell or Chis at Rottweiler. Not expensive. Work perfect. No fuss. And Great guys!!!!!
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Old 01-28-2015, 02:41 AM   #14
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Some people like doing things on their own. Others like to save a few bucks.

The connectors are under $2 a piece and the resistor + heat shrink are just a few cents. Easy to make too, just some solder and a heat gun.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:40 AM   #15
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Some people like doing things on their own. Others like to save a few bucks.

The connectors are under $2 a piece and the resistor + heat shrink are just a few cents. Easy to make too, just some solder and a heat gun.
Yup. Plus I got some SAS plates for $6. Being cheap is only part of the reason.....

Sparc145, Have you got the connectors yet?
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