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Old 05-16-2013, 09:29 AM   #46
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is this right that an 18" rim has difficulties? what rim does HPN use?
HPN uses 17" in the 1100 swingarm.
If you want a 18" with a paralever, you need to get the HPN welded swingarm.
SWT guy has relocated his shock mount on the 1100 swingarm.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:38 AM   #47
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HPN uses 17" in the 1100 swingarm.
If you want a 18" with a paralever, you need to get the HPN welded swingarm.
SWT guy has relocated his shock mount on the 1100 swingarm.
But a guy you might know Ivan, uses the 18" wheels all the time in his R1100GS without a problem

The 18" does make all the difference when it comes to off road traction IMHO.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:57 AM   #48
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No idea on shock length / stroke? Crazyivan? Prutser? SWT?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:12 PM   #49
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Swingarm and Rearwheel

Hello Airhead Wrangler,

I use a 390 mm long shock. The swingarm is from the 1100 GS, but it is vice welded. The suspension strut mount is slid in the direction of the steering head. This rebuild can I have a 18 "rear wheel with 140/80 18 tires run-in. Strut mounts are welded. HPN has this just screwed, so they have to make in Germany no opinion. Consequently, the strut mount counts as a rear frame and need not be examined separately.
A threaded chuck for a strut is otherwise not common in vehicle! The 18 "rim is only interesting for a greater choice of tires in sports and tours.
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:38 PM   #50
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Finland with Simo Kirssi

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A nice trip with Simo Kirssi !!
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:20 AM   #51
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Has your website changed ? There was a gallery with pics of various airheads, some with 1100 swingarms. I can't seem to find that page anymore ?
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #52
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look here

http://picasaweb.google.com/SWTsports/

or

https://plus.google.com/photos/11152...ums?banner=pwa

with TKC 80 Continental Tire can you use the 18" rim in the 1100 swingarm!

We also can make your swingarme ready for 18"!!!
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:17 PM   #53
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I really like this bike. Tell me a little bit more about what you had to change to get this to work. The oilhead driveshaft uses the same spline on the back to connect to the spline on the R100GS final drive? Where did you get the longer rear brake cable? What shock size did you use on this bike and how much rear wheel travel does it get? I've seen a set of frame reinforcing plates available on your web site. Would you offer a weld-on kit for making a shock mount for an oilhead swingarm? Which tie-rod did you use? Stock R1100GS?

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #54
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http://picasaweb.google.com/SWTsports/

or

https://plus.google.com/photos/11152...ums?banner=pwa

with TKC 80 Continental Tire can you use the 18" rim in the 1100 swingarm!

We also can make your swingarme ready for 18"!!!
Thanks for that.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:05 AM   #55
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Hi Airhead Driver

we have the Modified Final Drive of the 1000 GS. Here, the input shaft for the propeller shaft of the 1100s is swingarm rebuilt!
The brake cable we can create extra and sell them in our online shop. The frames are manufactured by us in the future with EU approval. Here, the frame is reinforced at stress points and cultivated a strut mount. In this vehicle as shock is 390mm long and fits a progressive spring. The travel beträt about 230-240mm of travel.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:17 AM   #56
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R 100 GS with oilhead swingarm

I got the bike brought by the customer!


after restoration




small petrol tank and other seat! For off-road use, the tank 32ltr (G / S) is too expensive!




in use!

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:36 PM   #57
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what are the pros/cons of putting an airhead paralever rear with an oilhead swing arm? (as opposed to a full 1100GS rear setup)

I would guess "if got one already" is a big factor.

Are there gearing implications?

I assume you can go 18" rim in both
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:44 PM   #58
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what are the pros/cons of putting an airhead paralever rear with an oilhead swing arm? (as opposed to a full 1100GS rear setup)

I would guess "if got one already" is a big factor.

Are there gearing implications?

I assume you can go 18" rim in both
From my mental assembly of the thing:
  • disc brake for oilhead, drum for airhead - pros and cons to both
  • Airhead final drive means not having to add mounts to your frame for a rear master cylinder plus modify your brake lever to actuate it.
  • Gearing implications: 3.0:1 from R1100GS or 3.2:1 from R850GS are the oilhead options. 3.09:1 for airhead.
  • Sounds like an 18" wheel is a very tight fit without modifying the swingarm for either final drive option (another advantage of the TAG modified oilhead swingarm - no shock mount in the center)
  • oilhead final drive allows you to use an unmodified oilhead driveshaft. Airhead final drive requires the right spline bell to be fitted to an oilhead shaft.


I'm sure there are other pros and cons that I haven't figured on yet.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:33 PM   #59
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Hi Manuel, thanks for the links to the photos. I have located and purchased an 1100 swingarm and driveshaft here in New Zealand to fit to my R80GS, so once my finances have recovered I will order an adaptor from SWT. Which rubber boot do you use for the swingarm / driveshaft. I saw on another site an adaptor to use the Airhead boot or do you use the 1100 boot ?
I am interested in fitting the airhead final drive as mine is rebuilt and is fitted with a disc brake. What is involved in making the airhead final drive fit the 1100 driveshaft.
I am intending to weld brackets to the swingarm for shock mounting to avoid any further welding to the frame. Paul Rooney has been successfully doing this in Australia.
Cheers PhIl
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:22 AM   #60
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Hello ...

I personally can think of no advantage for the drum brake. What has annoyed me a little at Oilhead was the brake pad wear in the OFF-ROAD. We could do better with our mud brake disc
In my opinion, the disc brake is simply the better choice.

The change of the brake pedal is in my opinion not a problem.
The choice of final drives is extensive and sufficient.
Even without modification of the rocker are sporadic 18 "Raed / tire combinations are possible.
1100 angle drive on the input shaft must not be changed.
This is not a drum brake better than a disc I do not have to mention here.

Hi Phil,

SWT adapter you can use with a 1100s propeller shaft.
If you want to use the Airhead final drive you have to make this rebuilding. The Tromelbremsseil we have in the program. the framework
dan you send to Australia? What does it cost?
Greeting Manuel
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