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Old 12-15-2014, 11:40 AM   #1
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I've seen all the ADV recommendations on knives etc; got a couple of nice ones. However, I just dropped off-line with friends in England and they tell me that carrying a knife in England is (mostly) illegal and recommend that I not consider even my small carry-knife or (heaven forbid) a 6" camp knife. I'm wondering how you can camp without a knife (okay, not really). I'm planning on air shipping my bike to Ireland (April, 2015) and crossing to England and to the Continent shortly thereafter. Without getting into all the mindless politics, how can I enjoy the utility of a knife without going to jail or being heavily fined for my trouble?


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Old 12-15-2014, 11:58 AM   #2
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Don't worry, I'm sure if you're camping you are quite at liberty to be carrying a modest knife (in your luggage) - what the authorities don't want you doing is walking around the streets etc. with a knife readily to hand.

There is also really nothing to stop you having a leatherman multitool on your person/belt clip for example (although technically those that know what it is could consider it a lethal weapon), which is actually a far more appropriate tool anyway - there is no real wild camping in the UK (or even wild animals for that matter!), so the need for a large knife is greatly reduced.

Keep it modest and don't get all Crocodile Dundee with it and you'll be fine...

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Old 12-15-2014, 12:32 PM   #3
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Agree with the multitool and can you add a small hatchet/axe.

I often carry a machette, axe and a knife.
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Old 12-15-2014, 12:41 PM   #4
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:27 PM   #5
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Let me Google that for you...

https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can...-carry-a-knife

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Old 12-15-2014, 01:37 PM   #6
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You can carry a non-locking folding knife without 'good reason'. You can carry anything you like if you have a 'good reason', like camping, particularly if it's in your luggage and doesn't look like a rambo fantasy.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:11 PM   #7
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I think Fed regs for a carry knife is 3.5" blade. Varies with state regs though. I carry a 3" pocket folder and never had an issue but yeah a LEO will measure it. For a fixed blade camp knife I carry an 8" tip to hilt K-Bar "in my saddle bags" and been through the lets stop the biker for a looksee what he's got shakedown drill a few times. Granted I'm carrying full camp gear along with and the K-Bar has never been an issue(in my saddle bags). I'm big on sharps and often pack(again..."in the saddle bags or sidecar") a 22" machete. Never an issue in WA/OR/ID/MT anyway. Times are a changing though. Check with your local state/county regs and use common sense.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:13 PM   #8
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Non locking; cause locking blades are for murdering people with. Hard to find a non locking single blade folder these days.

I carry a leather man anytime I am traveling and have checked luggage. Never had an issue. Did not carry one when I went on a cruise recently. Been told that the cruise ship security can get testy about any bladed tool.
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Old 12-15-2014, 03:27 PM   #9
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I've seen all the ADV recommendations on knives etc; got a couple of nice ones. However, I just dropped off-line with friends in England and they tell me that carrying a knife in England is (mostly) illegal and recommend that I not consider even my small carry-knife or (heaven forbid) a 6" camp knife. I'm wondering how you can camp without a knife (okay, not really). I'm planning on air shipping my bike to Ireland (April, 2015) and crossing to England and to the Continent shortly thereafter. Without getting into all the mindless politics, how can I enjoy the utility of a knife without going to jail or being heavily fined for my trouble?


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You may carry any knife with good reason.

However there are few places in England where you will be batoning logs, starting fires and stabbing rabbits. England has lots of laws and few wildernesses.

You may carry an ordinary folding (NON LOCKING) pocket knife as long as the cutting edge of the blade does not exceed 3 inches in length.

Spyderco UK Pocket Knife if you must have tacticool. Victorinox (Swiss Army) are not threatening. Or a nice Jack-knife.

This may help.

http://www.heinnie.com/knives-and-to...ndly_carry/yes
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Old 12-15-2014, 04:42 PM   #10
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read the local laws where you are going.

Think "case Knives", folding non locking.
remember people camped with folding non locking knives for A LONG time before locking became the standard.



FYI... you should always check the local state laws here state side as well, but remember that even those in most states vary by city
example... most places allow that a visible pocket clip constitutes non-concealed carry but some still state that if the knife itself is not visible it is concealed.

Colorado resident that EDC should look at Boulder's laws... yep good ol Boulder
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:15 PM   #11
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I always carry a 3 inch or 4 inch SOG folding knife with a clip for my right front pocket, I would feel undressed with out it, cant get through airports with it, but it does make it threw baggage, cheer`s
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:20 PM   #12
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I carry a leather man anytime I am traveling and have checked luggage. Never had an issue. Did not carry one when I went on a cruise recently. Been told that the cruise ship security can get testy about any bladed tool.
I guess the bad guy could just leave his knife at home and pick up one on the cruise ship at supper to do any dirty deeds. :)
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:07 PM   #13
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Non locking; cause locking blades are for murdering people with. Hard to find a non locking single blade folder these days.

I carry a leather man anytime I am traveling and have checked luggage. Never had an issue. Did not carry one when I went on a cruise recently. Been told that the cruise ship security can get testy about any bladed tool.
I have a Fallkniven U1 in 3G steel with 2 1/2 inch blade that is a folder that does NOT lock made especially for that law.

They also make a locking model.
The entire length openened is 5 3/4 inches. Folded 3 1/2.

A perfect carry knife.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:09 PM   #14
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Thanks for the inputs everyone. It's not that I necessarily want to carry a knife in England, it's that I'll be traveling all year and will certainly do some "unofficial" camping in the wilder areas of some of the European countries that still have woodlands and forests. I just need to get it through England without trouble---that's the real issue. I suppose Sweden, Finland, and Norway won't be any better?


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Old 12-15-2014, 11:18 PM   #15
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As long as you dont act like an idiot you shouldnt have any problems. Even if you do end up in someplace where you cant carry a blade, again be very polite and dont give the police any trouble. Probably all they will do is take it from you. Sucks, but let them have your $30 knife.
Buy another one ASAP.
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