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View Results: How did your failure happen?
No notice at all ,left me stranded on the spot. 66 22.45%
Noticed a problem ,but was able to ride back to civilazation 107 36.39%
Just checked and felt fine ,but died a few hundred miles later 17 5.78%
Noticed problem,rode bike hundreds of miles without total failure 104 35.37%
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:59 AM   #241
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2006 GS 1200 Adventure. (built before Feb 06 - the needle bearing upgrade in August 06) has smaller needle bearing.

47,000 kms

Slight vibration - when no load. No leakage to speak of (I replaced the right rear seal at 35k after slight sweating around seal.

Pinion gear - movement - lateral and along the axis.

Removed - pinion and pinion needle bearing shot - ground down races and severe gauling/pitting.

The rest still looks good. Teeth look fine and wearing where they should - I will double check that to see if the shims are correct from the factory. Along with the gear lash for the ring gear.

Big bearing very tight - no rear wheel play - slightly less than tolerance specs even.

I will be replacing the needle bearing and seals.

Thinking of selling the rebuilt item and buying an 09 FD with all the upgrades.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:07 PM   #242
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[quote=Disco Dean]
Big bearing very tight - no rear wheel play - slightly less than tolerance specs even.

No rear play - slightly less than tolerance specs?? Are these two statements contradictory or am I missing something?

I have a bit of play when I grab the rear wheel at 3 and 9. '04 1150 GS. The local dealer said it seemed within spec. I thought any movement was bad. Is some wheel movement within spec? Perplexed GS noob.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:52 PM   #243
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Big bearing very tight - no rear wheel play - slightly less than tolerance specs even.

No rear play - slightly less than tolerance specs?? Are these two statements contradictory or am I missing something?

I have a bit of play when I grab the rear wheel at 3 and 9. '04 1150 GS. The local dealer said it seemed within spec. I thought any movement was bad. Is some wheel movement within spec? Perplexed GS noob.
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Just my ineptitude...

On the 1200gs you can expect up to 1 mm tolerance (that is the combined + and -) at the rim when measuring. That is the normal range. I do not know what the 1150 should be but you can feel movement (1mm is quite a lot to feel) and it will still be in spec (on the 1200gs)

Maybe someone else has the spec for the 1150...
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:07 PM   #244
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Keep Us Posted on '09 FD

[quote=Disco Dean]
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Originally Posted by August West
Just my ineptitude...

On the 1200gs you can expect up to 1 mm tolerance (that is the combined + and -) at the rim when measuring. That is the normal range. I do not know what the 1150 should be but you can feel movement (1mm is quite a lot to feel) and it will still be in spec (on the 1200gs)

Maybe someone else has the spec for the 1150...
If you go for an '09 FD...please post the installation and costs..thanks!
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:20 PM   #245
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give us non-failures an option

+1 for an option for those of us who keep on going and going and going without FD failures. Only 40,000 miles on my 1150GS, but virtually all of it hard riding in all kinds of weather (but not much deep water crossing stuff) - heavily loaded solo or loaded two-up And no sloppy wheel or leaking seals. Just changed the FD oil again and it was dirty but without any discernible metal using bright light, a strong magnet and a filter to trap anythign else I may have missed. I've changed the FD lube at about 11000-12000 intervals after the first change at 6000 miles and the result has been consistently uneventful. I wish you all the same good fortune. YMMV

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Old 03-03-2010, 08:14 PM   #246
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I'm rebuilding mine
80.000 Km
Leaking but no bearing damage
However, you can feel something when the big one spin and the tapered have some wear.
I'm replacing everything and want to have the perfect shimming
(play at the wheel was feelable, but less than 1 mm).

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Old 03-04-2010, 02:16 PM   #247
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I think I got a lucky deal. My '05 R1200GS has 99k miles. Original rear drive with no problems, no leaks, just a little bit of play at the wheel rim.
Browsing ebay I found a rear drive, by seller less than 10K miles. Ebay, but seller was BMW Santa Cruz County. Recommended by seller to change pivot bearings. This unit is on the bike and the old one will go to Anton for full refreshment. The ebay drive was $200.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:44 AM   #248
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05 1200gs, noticed pinion shaft play and noisey when turning by hand while replacing drivehaft at 93,000. Shipped FD to San Jose BMW for an overhaul at $735.00 to replace all bearing and seals. While waiting for the 05 FD to be returned I ran an 07 FD I bought off e-bay years ago. Problem was, no speedo or ABS because hole for speed sensor is different on the 07. Just used my GPS for a speedo and ran it anyway until my original came back. And no, a 07 speed sensor does not jive with 05 'putor. San Jose did a great job, all is well now and the restraining order for the UPS man has been lifted.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:25 PM   #249
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Got a 06 GSA 1200
got now 52400 miles and it just eaten the 4th final drive
first at 13k,26k,38k and now at 52
anyone can beat that???
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:32 PM   #250
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Got a 06 GSA 1200
got now 52400 miles and it just eaten the 4th final drive
first at 13k,26k,38k and now at 52
anyone can beat that???


I just sighed my guts right out of stomach and all over the FD oil covered floor...:c ry
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:08 PM   #251
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Pissed Ouch!

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Got a 06 GSA 1200 -got now 52400 miles and it just eaten the 4th final drive
first at 13k,26k,38k and now at 52
It's all about the ride. Shees! Sorry about all that hassle!
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:09 AM   #252
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Damn!

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Got a 06 GSA 1200
got now 52400 miles and it just eaten the 4th final drive
first at 13k,26k,38k and now at 52
anyone can beat that???
Hey LV...this really sucks..any WAGs why you have lost so many FDs?
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:10 PM   #253
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That is the actual number on the bearing. The BMW part numbers are: Bearing- 33121468899 The seal # 33121241938 O ring # 33111451182
Do these #'s fit all models -I have a 09' GSA
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Old 03-06-2010, 05:13 PM   #254
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Got a 06 GSA 1200
got now 52400 miles and it just eaten the 4th final drive
first at 13k,26k,38k and now at 52
anyone can beat that???
holy crap! Wouldnt that qualify you for the lemon law? (more than 3 times the same problem)
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:21 PM   #255
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holy crap! Wouldnt that qualify you for the lemon law? (more than 3 times the same problem)
Nah, final drives are regarded as consumable items.
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