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Old 08-17-2013, 04:40 PM   #1
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How long do Dealers carry parts for?

I'm generally aware that auto dealers carry parts for their brands for up to 10 years, but what about BMW Motorrad?

How long would the dealer's channel carry, say, body parts for a '13 F800GS? Or is everything bought from the factory (or national parts distribution) on demand?
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:57 PM   #2
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It cost money to keep stuff on the shelf. So if it does not make enough money for its board then they won't keep it.

---------------- If a dealer has a lot of customers with one model of bike then they'll be inclined to keep stuff for that model, at least the stuff to keep that bike on the road. Things like cosmetic body panels probably not as they take a fair bit of room and people can use the bike without them while they wait for the panel to come in.

Think about it for their point of view. If it cost them money to do something then they won't be in business long doing it.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:01 PM   #3
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Thanks, but ummmm....not much of an answer?

For background - I have some (now) less than perfect body pieces, and am thinking about the "future", so trying to decide on when to pull the trigger on replacement pieces before they come unavailable.

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Old 08-17-2013, 11:11 PM   #4
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Thanks, but ummmm....not much of an answer?

For background - I have some (now) less than perfect body pieces, and am thinking about the "future", so trying to decide on when to pull the trigger on replacement pieces before they come unavailable.

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If you have to replace them anyway, it might be better to buy them off now. They are not going to get cheaper over time, after all. Unless you plan to scrounge fleabay for a cheap deal. Plus most dealers are not going to keep a set, one in each color.

That said, I know that Ride West in Seattle had a lot of the transmission and engine parts for exotic airheads, other good dealers should have something around for the long haul.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:41 AM   #5
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I know the local parts person at BMW Motorrad, and she sold me a regulator that has a list price of nearly $400, but it had been on the shelf there since early 2009, so she knocked it down to $90.

I really have to wonder what their margins are.

The nearly $700 headlight, she rang me back after I made some inquiries, and told me the best she could do was $400.

They still make some margin even when they drop the price.

The bash plate rubber isolation mounts were $70 for 4, and the sales guys gave me a couple of sets for free. They had a pile of them in a locker out the back for some reason.

It works well when you know the sales staff and spares staff, but if I was Joe Average off the street they wouldn't hesitate to nail me.

10 years is the general rule of thumb here. But for some limited run vehicles that can be unrealistic in practise. Prices are ridiculous. Then you turn to ebay.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:24 AM   #6
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While at Motorrad I often did Insurance jobs on bikes that magically fell over. Ordering a new 10 yr old panel was possible and it often came in a dusty box with the treasure inside.

While I can't say exactly how long something will be available, somewhere there's a big wharehouse full.

Your bike won't be new in 10 yrs. The models have been around long enough now (finally!) that spares aren't a problem. Right now I have 3 body sets for my 09 800. The bike looks a bit odd with brand new panels on an older faded frame.

My GF's bike was bought new and babied although we travelled long and far. 3 yrs old looking like new. Then a car failed to stop. Now it's a rusty damaged heap on a boat to China.

Spend your money on gas and adventure. When your bike is as old as your panels look, get a new one if you still want one.

More advice than an answer I know but I've been there a few times. Don't know how you'd get a definite answer.....
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:57 AM   #7
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BMW continues to supply parts for my almost 40 year old R90S (and older bikes as well). I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:10 AM   #8
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BMW continues to supply parts for my almost 40 year old R90S (and older bikes as well). I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Yes! I restored a '74 R90S a few years ago and found it was harder reading the PN off the old microfiche than actually getting the parts. Not all info was properly transferred onto the new system. The only consideration was that often the aftermarket had cheaper alternatives at a higher quality. Everything for the ground up resto was obtainable but some had a longer wait depending on what country stored it. Only issue was a new set of points that we were told had to be manufactured, and they were prepared to do so.
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:32 PM   #9
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I appreciate all of the good information - ADVrider can always be counted on as a good group info resource.

I really like the look of the 2013 side covers and fairing side panels are the sexiest yet - I just want to make sure that "Tux" looks his best 10 years on.

I'll likely pull the trigger on the required parts sooner than later - with the intent of getting the rest of my "ya yas" out, then treating him to the new parts and paint protection film so he can age with dignity...
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:35 PM   #10
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I just found this. Previously you couldn't get BMW paint because it was hazardous goods and wouldn't ship.

http://stores.ebay.com/GCLLC2012/Oth...&_sid=12116725

The Dark Magnesuim should spruce up my panels a bit. No, it won't look new I realize (it's a rattle can!) but neither is my bike.

Options are good.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:43 PM   #11
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I know the local parts person at BMW Motorrad, and she sold me a regulator that has a list price of nearly $400, but it had been on the shelf there since early 2009, so she knocked it down to $90.

I really have to wonder what their margins are.

The nearly $700 headlight, she rang me back after I made some inquiries, and told me the best she could do was $400.

They still make some margin even when they drop the price.

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Why would you assume this? Upon what are you basing your judgement? Is it based on the philosophy of "they never lose money"? If so, you are just wrong and don't understand the value of cash flow. Small business relies upon cash flow. If they have a part sitting on a shelf for 5 years, they have money that isn't moving and shelf space that could be used for something that is in high demand. There are times when a small business owner will choose to sell an item for less than he paid for it in order to free up the cash and space. Getting $400 today for a part that cost them $500 may be better than getting $600 5 years from now.

"Margins" in a motorcycle dealership are not what most people assume and certainly not a place for a man to get filthy rich.
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