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Old 03-27-2013, 09:41 AM   #1
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NotARideReport, just some weak photos of Death Valley

This is NARR, so I won't feel pressured about bad photography, missed opportunities,
yada yada...

Spent 3/21-3/25 in Death Valley, trailer camping at Panamint Springs, to show my father-in-
law around. He had last been there at the age of 9 in 1939 and wanted to see it again.
We realized when he had visited 74 years ago Scotty and the Johnsons were alive and
most likely in residence at the castle...


This is the latest in March we've gone so far, much warmer and drier and lots more
riders out this year.


Very windy too, stirred up dust and the valleys stayed pretty hazy until Sunday.


Panamint Valley from South Pass





Rode a fun loop on Saturday, PSR to Hunter Mountain to Hidden Valley to Scotty's, back to the
Racetrack, down Lippincott to Saline Valley to South Pass and back to Panamint. 171 miles of
dualsport perfection. As I started up the steep narrow part of South Pass I came across an
abandoned car. Someone had tried to drive south from Saline Valley in a passenger car with
bald tires. Didn't make it.


Teakettle was almost gridlocked with traffic



Dang, I think I need to skip a few meals



Lippincott was awesome, had never ridden it before.





Panamint Springs is still one of my favorite places to camp, for an organized campground. We
met some great people there, the kind that after 30 seconds of talking you feel that bond of
friendship based on common interests and a shared sense of personal responsibility.



On the other hand, there's often some campground drama kings and queens in
places like that. Almost had a pair get into a fistfight over who was going to get the "best" site, there was a
couple generator morons who seemed to think their cheap chinese crap 105 dB generators were god's
gifts to us fellow campers (one guy ran a PAIR of them simultaneously because--------well, I
don't know, but one obviously just wasn't enought ), and one group had a loudmouthed guy
who was clearly an EXPERT on everything to do with motorcycles, riding and life in general.

We had a saying in rec.motorcycles.dirt: Ride more, post (or talk, in this case) less. He
loudly explained one night to the world why all the off-road training experts were wrong about
standing up while riding...







Found a new favorite spot: Aguerreberry Point.



Just plain awesome views.





Sunday night the clouds rolled in and gave us a treat on Monday morning, a beautiful sunrise over
the Panamint Range.




That's it.

Ride more, post less.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #2
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Nice pictures. It looked like a fun ride.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #3
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Sweet !!! Can't wait to go back
Cold? Warm?
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:22 AM   #4
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Found a new favorite spot: Aguerreberry Point.

Amazing spot isn't it?


Thanks for sharing!!
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:10 AM   #5
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Nice pictures. It looked like a fun ride.
Yeah, it was one of the best day rides I've had. Got a little lost in the maze once you drop
down out of Hunter Mountain and connect to Hidden Valley Road but that just adds to the fun.
I kept playing tag with a great group of 3 riders, two on KLR's and one on a DRZ. They were
jealous of my light bike and knobby tires.

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Sweet !!! Can't wait to go back
Cold? Warm?
Warmish. Days were in the mid to upper 80's F in valleys, 60's up on Hunter & South Pass. I had
to stop several times to either add liner & heavy gloves or switch to vents open and thin gloves.
Love the elevation changes in such short spans. Before going to Death Valley I had no idea it is
as much about the mountains as it is the valleys.

NO mud or ice or even wet sand, anywhere on the roads. I wonder how long they can grade the
roads before they become walled-in excavations...?

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Amazing spot isn't it?


Thanks for sharing!!
Yup. Amazing.

We had our dog with us that day--drove the truck up there--and thought we'd lost him over a cliff.
We had walked out to the most east-facing point and he just disappeared over the edge before we
realized what he was doing. Whistled, called, shouted........nothing.

Gulp.

I started down the rocks and suddenly heard him scrambling up the loose scree, then he appeared
around an outcrop, licking his jowls. He'd followed his nose down the edge and found something
to eat. Didn't smell all that enticing, whatever it was.

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Old 03-27-2013, 12:36 PM   #6
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Nice pix!

And not too much talkin'!

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Some of that looks familiar:

The wind was howling and the wife scared to death.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:31 PM   #8
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Was at PSR on 18,19,20. Saw two Cadillac El Dorados headed over Hunter Mtn. Wouldn't have been a tire stripped El Dorado for an escape vehicle?
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:01 PM   #9
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You mean the abandoned car I saw at the base of South Pass?

No it wasn't a Caddy. I am pissed I didn't think to take a photo of it! What a lost opportunity.
It was some little Korean-looking mini hatchback. Might have been AWD, but I
don't think so, most likely front wheel drive. It was facing south, lots of scratches along the
right side but no dents--don't think it rolled, at least not onto the right side where I could
see as I stopped to look.

The right front tire was shredded, wrapped around the rim, but looking at the tread I could
see it was basically bald before they'd even started.

Looked like they'd dropped the carrier on the underside looking for a spare, but no sign
they'd tried to replace the tire. Guessing it was either missing or one of those baby wheels.

This was on Saturday the 23rd. RHrider was through there on Thursday the 21st and it wasn't
there then...



(Just found out a couple weeks ago that many new BMW cars don't even come with a spare at
all--they put on "run flat tires" and call it good.

Yeah, right. Found out because my daughter was a passenger in a BMW that tried to run
flat, and it came off the rim. Way to go, BMW.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:11 AM   #10
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Makes me wonder how they got out. Rangers said they don't even have a 150Mhz radio system most parks use. Mercy of passing travelers at best.
Run-flat, yeah that makes sense. US auto standards did not require the Tire Pressure Monitoring System on the spare for my 2007 Tundra. Now they do. Increased tire costs might have forced alternatives.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
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There was a story on npr a couple years ago about how some gps systems would route through the backroads of death valley as the shortest route, or show things as passenger car roads when they were actually marginal 4x tracks. More than a couple deaths were traced to that. Seems like people should know when to turn around no matter what the gps says, but there are plenty of city people that are totally unprepared for how rough and remote some of these places can be.
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