ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Fluff > Shiny things
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 12 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 03-27-2013, 07:42 PM   #1
eakins OP
Butler Maps
 
eakins's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Oddometer: 17,528
2014 Ford Transit w/ 3.2L 5cyl diesel

With high roof, extended body & a diesel...finally in the US!
This is full on competition to the MB sprinter and i'm guessing less $ and cheaper service.

The RV industry is gonna be all over the van and cut-way model like flies on poop.

http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...page=Feature10
http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...14/combinator/









__________________
Butler Maps - motorcycle maps for riders by riders -
Alaska
AZ map COBDR AZBDR IDBDR South East map
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598717
Butler Maps website:
http://www.butlermaps.com

eakins screwed with this post 06-24-2013 at 06:41 AM
eakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:01 PM   #2
NikonsAndVStroms
Beastly Photographer
 
NikonsAndVStroms's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Oddometer: 37,464
Not sure about the RV industry, it's a unibody so wouldn't that be a lot of work to keep it together/stong while putting a new body pretty much on it.
__________________
Motorcycles save lives


"It's the game of life. Do I win or do I lose? One day they're gonna shut the game down. I gotta have as much fun and go around the board as many times as I can before it's my turn to leave."
NikonsAndVStroms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:08 PM   #3
eakins OP
Butler Maps
 
eakins's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Oddometer: 17,528
good question.
the cutaways are just a rear frame that the mfg can put what ever they want on the back. as for the vans, the mfg just add internal components for the design they want within the weight limits of the vehicle. as a work van it's gotta be able to carry alot of weight in the field. the DIYers is gonna jump in for sure.
__________________
Butler Maps - motorcycle maps for riders by riders -
Alaska
AZ map COBDR AZBDR IDBDR South East map
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598717
Butler Maps website:
http://www.butlermaps.com
eakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:15 PM   #4
Andrew
Optimus Primer
 
Andrew's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Location: Eastbania
Oddometer: 14,959
Good competition for the Sprinters... but does Ford have the quality control it will need to measure up?
__________________
Splitting lanes, and splitting hairs.
Andrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:31 PM   #5
(none)
poser
 
(none)'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Oddometer: 2,593
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
Good competition for the Sprinters... but does Ford have the quality control it will need to measure up?

I'm sure they do, they've been selling the things for years everywhere else. Hopefully they can manage to not rust away like the Mercedes/Dodge units are doing.
__________________
Current:
R1150GS
GN400
LC80
JK Rubi
(none) is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:42 PM   #6
DUNDERHEAD
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: CT
Oddometer: 187
Looks like someone pasted a Ford logo on a MB Sprinter.
DUNDERHEAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:11 PM   #7
eakins OP
Butler Maps
 
eakins's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Oddometer: 17,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
Good competition for the Sprinters... but does Ford have the quality control it will need to measure up?
Ford seems to be on a roll these days with quality vehicles, plus it's not a new van, just new in the US so the 1st year issues are not there.

As for (Japanese) quality control, Nissan jumped into the fray but they approached it wrong with a big truck front end and a big gas motor.
MB and Ford have it right with the smaller diesel motors.

The question is will that motor make it into other US Ford vehicles???
__________________
Butler Maps - motorcycle maps for riders by riders -
Alaska
AZ map COBDR AZBDR IDBDR South East map
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598717
Butler Maps website:
http://www.butlermaps.com
eakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:14 PM   #8
slackmeyer
Don't mean sheeit. .
 
slackmeyer's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Berzerkeley, CA
Oddometer: 2,958
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
Good competition for the Sprinters... but does Ford have the quality control it will need to measure up?
Well, it seems like the ford transit has a great rep in the european market, and I would put the reliability/cost of ownership of the E series vans toe to toe with the sprinter any day. It remains to be seen if they can get this van with these motors working well right out of the gate or not. I'm hopeful, the commercial van market is big for Ford, I'm sure they spend a lot of time having nightmares about the possibility of a bunch of fleet customers all buying GM vans for the next few years.

I sure as hell wish they'd quit re-announcing it and start seeing some of these vans on the road. We've been talking about this for years now.
__________________
Zak

ktm
old bmw
others
slackmeyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:14 PM   #9
NikonsAndVStroms
Beastly Photographer
 
NikonsAndVStroms's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Oddometer: 37,464
Quote:
Originally Posted by DUNDERHEAD View Post
Looks like someone pasted a Ford logo on a MB Sprinter.
In Europe IIRC Ford owns this segment.
__________________
Motorcycles save lives


"It's the game of life. Do I win or do I lose? One day they're gonna shut the game down. I gotta have as much fun and go around the board as many times as I can before it's my turn to leave."
NikonsAndVStroms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:17 PM   #10
eakins OP
Butler Maps
 
eakins's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Oddometer: 17,528
any guess on the price?
how does these come in vrs the sprinter?

what about MPG? don't see that listed anywhere on the Ford US site.
__________________
Butler Maps - motorcycle maps for riders by riders -
Alaska
AZ map COBDR AZBDR IDBDR South East map
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598717
Butler Maps website:
http://www.butlermaps.com
eakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:19 PM   #11
_cy_
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Oddometer: 5,430
NICE!
about time... USA gets a smaller diesel engine vehicle, that rest of world has had for decades...
still don't understand why GM, Ford, Dodge think that Americans would not want small diesels that get 30-50+ mpg..

it's not epa ... they've had clean burning diesel engines for decades
_cy_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:21 PM   #12
eakins OP
Butler Maps
 
eakins's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Oddometer: 17,528
Ford only confirmed the diesel a few months ago
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/10/f...-2014-transit/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Advanced, Fuel-Efficient 3.2-Liter Power Stroke Turbo Diesel Makes North American Debut in All-New 2014 Ford Transit

-Already a proven global workhorse, Ford adds 3.2-liter five-cylinder turbo diesel to fuel-efficient North American lineup in all-new Transit commercial van range

-This innovative engine features state-of-the-art fuel, turbo and emissions systems that meet stringent U.S. clean diesel standards

-The 3.2-liter Power Stroke® Diesel will deliver outstanding performance, exceptional fuel economy and low operating costs

DEARBORN, Mich., Dec. 10, 2012 – Ford's all-new Transit full-size van, which goes on sale late next year, will be offered with a new clean-running 3.2-liter Power Stroke® five-cylinder diesel, further bolstering Ford's lineup of fuel-efficient cars, trucks and SUVs.

The new diesel, Ford's second in North America, already has established a proven record for reliability, durability and refinement in the global Ford Ranger truck sold in world markets. The new Power Stroke Diesel will be the only five-cylinder diesel engine available in a commercial van in North America.

"Commercial van drivers spend most of their working hours behind the wheel. We know they want a fuel-efficient diesel engine with smooth, responsive performance and low operating costs," said Joe Bakaj, Ford vice president of Powertrain Engineering. "The 3.2-liter Power Stroke engine has been developed and proven globally to deliver a world-class combination of power, fuel economy and refinement."

The 3.2-liter will join the most fuel-efficient lineup in Ford Motor Company's history. Next year, Ford will offer eight vehicles rated at 40 mpg or higher – double today's total, and more than any other automaker. Ford tops Toyota in fuel economy in every segment in which both companies compete.

While power has not been certified for North America, the new diesel engine is rated in Europe at 197 horsepower and 347 lb.-ft. of torque.

Like the larger 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 offered in Ford F-Series Super Duty trucks, the fuel system has been carefully tailored and calibrated for combustion efficiency. It enables the newest Power Stroke to achieve exceptional fuel economy ratings without affecting power levels.

The 3.2-liter turbo diesel features state-of-the-art piezoelectric fuel injectors fed through a high-pressure common rail fuel system, and advanced emissions technologies.

Precise injection timing and calibration also ensures a smooth combustion process to reduce hard diesel combustion clatter, resulting in lower noise levels that are more like a gasoline engine. Each injector nozzle has eight spray holes and can deliver up to five injections per combustion cycle. A pilot injection controls noise levels and a main injection is used for power generation.

Technical features of the new Power Stroke 3.2-liter include:

-Quick-start glow plugs that enable smooth and fast startups at temperatures down to 25 degrees F
-Durable, rigid sand-cast gray iron cylinder block
-Aluminum cylinder heads with double overhead cams and four valves per cylinder
-Advanced common rail piezoelectric fuel injectors that deliver multiple injections per stroke to improve performance and reduce NVH; maximum fuel pressure is 26,100 psi
-Variable nozzle turbocharger with electronic actuation; maximum impellor speed of 197,800 rpm
-First application of selective catalytic reduction for reduced nitrogen oxide emissions in a Ford van
-Integrated diesel oxidation catalyst and diesel particulate filter to save space
-Expected to be B20 biodiesel compatible

Additionally, the engine features cast-aluminum, low-friction coated pistons with piston-cooling jets, which squirt oil on the underside of the pistons to keep the piston crowns cool under extreme operating conditions. Also included is a water-cooled high-performance electric-controlled exhaust gas recirculation valve that is better able to withstand coolant pressure drops.

The 3.2-liter Power Stroke is one of several engines that will be available for Transit in North America, including the proven 3.5-liter EcoBoost®gasoline engine. All engines are mated to a Ford 6R80 six-speed automatic transmission.

With a flat torque plateau – 90 percent of its peak torque is available from 1,700 to 3,500 rpm, providing better engine flexibility – Transit will be able to effortlessly haul full loads in town and on the highway, while offering flexible performance across each gear in the six-speed automatic transmission.

"The Power Stroke name is synonymous with power, work and long-term durability," said Bakaj. "We're confident our commercial van customers will be extremely pleased with the 3.2-liter's fuel economy, performance and running costs."

The Power Stroke 3.2-liter is manufactured in Ford's Struandale Engine Plant in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. It will be exported to Ford's Kansas City Assembly Plant in Claycomo, Mo., which received a $1.1 billion investment for the Transit.
__________________
Butler Maps - motorcycle maps for riders by riders -
Alaska
AZ map COBDR AZBDR IDBDR South East map
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598717
Butler Maps website:
http://www.butlermaps.com
eakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 09:51 PM   #13
Andrew
Optimus Primer
 
Andrew's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Location: Eastbania
Oddometer: 14,959
Sounding better and better. Someday soon, I'm going to be setting up a nice diesel desert camper. Short bed, low roof, with windows... and a big enough Hi-Lift jack to get me out of trouble!

The Ford looks like a contender.
__________________
Splitting lanes, and splitting hairs.
Andrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:04 AM   #14
Tmaximusv
Studly Adventurer
 
Tmaximusv's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Location: Gateway to the Sandhills
Oddometer: 628
Definitely in. Glad that there will likely be a better dealer/service network than the Sprinter. Hopefully a lower purchase price than the Sprinter, too.
__________________
Illegitemi non-corundum est.
Tmaximusv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 08:23 AM   #15
troidus
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Oddometer: 12,083
Quote:
Originally Posted by eakins View Post
Like the concept, hate the nose. It reminds me of this:

troidus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 07:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014