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Old 03-30-2013, 10:00 AM   #16
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Are you saying the chain is too long? Are you saying they made the links shorter to sell more links? The links will be made to a standardized dimension.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:32 AM   #17
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LMAO!! I don't know if notrivia is jerking our chains (pun intended) or a clueless nimrod. Either way, this thread is hilarious! :sly::sly:
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #18
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It's an endless chain ...

Hey RWF and Max -

Yes, RWF, I am saying that they are incrementally increasing the size of each link so that the adjustment cycle will be shorter so they can sell more chain.
And Max, this is my 4th chain. The stock chain got me 33,000,
my second was a Regina which gave about 18,000- but I was traveling a lot and did not give it the care it deserved. My third was reportedly the stock DID with sunstar sprockets, about 8,000, lovingly cared for. I noticed at installation the adjustment was in the middle. The EK X-Ring doing the same has prompted this "investigation". I also went back to the stock sprockets ...
I've e-mailed both Regina and EK with precise information, and especially asked EK to "explain the technical fact that causes the chain to be in the middle rather than the start of the adjustment mark".
THANKYOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:27 PM   #19
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Did you replace both sprockets at the time you installed the new chain? If not that may account for your problem.

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Old 03-30-2013, 01:32 PM   #20
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A link too many

Yes, Railbender, everything is as it should be, correct sprockets with the right tooth count, and stock chain link amount. And my version is the "N" Max.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #21
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Never seen an adjuster start out RIGHT at the beginning, there's intentionally some extra so you can... Wait for it... Adjust. What matters is the length between links. There's a wear limit your manual will recommend, probably measuring 10 links. Reaching the end of the adjuster has nothing to do with it. You will probably exceed that limit before you exceed your adjusters. If you do reach the end of the adjuster and still have good life in the chain, remove one link, adjust, and ride on.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:04 PM   #22
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Never seen an adjuster start out RIGHT at the beginning, there's intentionally some extra so you can... Wait for it... Adjust. What matters is the length between links. There's a wear limit your manual will recommend, probably measuring 10 links. Reaching the end of the adjuster has nothing to do with it. You will probably exceed that limit before you exceed your adjusters. If you do reach the end of the adjuster and still have good life in the chain, remove one link, adjust, and ride on.
^^^^this

Chain wear has nothing to due with the position of the adjusters. The adjuster allows some leeway for stretch and sprocket changes (while giving you way to maintaining chain tension), but are not an indicator of a warn chain. It sounds like you are trying to use it as a wear indicator???? Install with adjustors all the way in, and ride it until there is no adjustment left??? Be prepare for a broken chain if this is the case (and all the bad things that may happen when it snaps).

Or as they say... are you pulling our chains??? Little early for April fools isn't it?
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:07 PM   #23
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LMAO!! I don't know if notrivia is jerking our chains (pun intended) or a clueless nimrod. Either way, this thread is hilarious! :sly::sly:


I have to say that the amount of fail in this thread is EPIC!
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:19 PM   #24
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Wtf? The op has ridden more miles and owned more bikes than most of you combined. If he says there is something wrong then I would believe him. Personally I think it maybe a swingarm problem. As a bend or worn bearings would make it effectively shorter and causing the too long problem. If you don't have anything to offer why don't u take it to the basement
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:47 PM   #25
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Maybe Suzuki starting making the swingarms shorter to save materials and cut costs. This would really fry my ass,,,, paying for a whole swingarm and getting shorted!!!!
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:22 PM   #26
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As sensible people have said in past posts

Chains are made to a standard.
Chain ware of 3 to 5% is taken as the maximum ware... so any chain made approaching that would be shunned by the market.

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The OP should MEASURE their chain.. rather than assume. Maybe looking at a brand new bike may help?


Measure 9 links - should be 5.625 inches... use a vernier caliper for resolution... a motorcycle mechanic may have a dedicated gauge to check chain ware ...
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:48 PM   #27
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my dad was a machinist I may have to break out some of his measuring tools and verify whats going on..does anyone have a link to what the standard is?
What, a ruler? The pitch is 5/8", it's pretty easy to check. Measure this bad boy and multiply . . .
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:50 PM   #28
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LMAO!! I don't know if notrivia is jerking our chains (pun intended) or a clueless nimrod. Either way, this thread is hilarious! :sly::sly:
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:58 PM   #29
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Maybe he got one of them new fangled pre stretched chains.
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:03 PM   #30
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As sensible people have said in past posts

Chains are made to a standard.
Chain ware of 3 to 5% is taken as the maximum ware... so any chain made approaching that would be shunned by the market.

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The OP should MEASURE their chain.. rather than assume. Maybe looking at a brand new bike may help?


Measure 9 links - should be 5.625 inches... use a vernier caliper for resolution... a motorcycle mechanic may have a dedicated gauge to check chain ware ...
Another way that works is to measure a length that will be an even number of links....for 5/8 pitch chain 15" will be 24 links.....if the distance grows to 15 3/8" it has elongated 2.5% and the chain is about due to be replaced. This much wear would lengthen the entire chain about 1 3/4" and require the axle to be moved back about 1/2 that much from new to adjust for wear, about 7/8" (but as was said the bike manufacturers spec for wear should be used)
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