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Old 05-13-2013, 05:56 AM   #316
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A bit hard to tell in the video, but I think the first bike to go down was caused by the rider CLAMPING on the front brake. Looks to me like a puff of tire smoke at the front tire, then it washes out with the bike going slideways.

I came across a crashed sportbike on the side of a long straight section of road. His buddies all around him on the shoulder, his GSXR wadded up in the ditch. Nobody said anything about animals. No cars involved, clear straight road, bright dry day, about noon.

All I could guess is he was mid-pack, got on it hard to catch up, caught up way too quick, and "adjusted" by clamping on the front brake.
I saw that puff from the rear tire, not the front. I'm going to guess that this cause of this crash same as the OP. The guy locked the rear wheel, released and then lost it.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:33 AM   #317
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I don't think the guy in the video layed it down. I think he fell off. Why is a good question.

Which is exactly what I thought but seeing it in print made me actually lol.

Maybe there was debris on the road and he panicked?
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:35 PM   #318
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Maybe he had a medical event, before he fell off.

Maybe he Armoralled the seat.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:14 PM   #319
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Friend of mine, also a Harley rider, passed like that. The rider behind him saw his right foot fall off the peg, he sort of slumped partway off the bike, then veered right through a guardrail and ......
He'd been having little episodes previously, and I'm sure that's the way he wanted to go. Out with friends, then lights out.



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Old 05-14-2013, 06:16 AM   #320
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Don't forget about having to lay'er down when there's no reason to....you know, for practice!


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theyz sooooo cool stand'in round the *$s in their silly little chaps 'n pudd'in bowl helmets, and theyz sooooo cool bounce'in down da road!
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:19 AM   #321
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"Hmmmm, it's a nice day.... puttin wif my bros.... hey, I haven't laid 'er down for a while, should practice.... ok, rear brake locked, slide, release, annnnnndddd there's the highside I need.....Ahhh, sliding down the pavement wif my bros!"




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Old 05-14-2013, 08:21 AM   #322
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"Hmmmm, it's a nice day.... puttin wif my bros.... hey, I haven't laid 'er down for a while, should practice.... ok, rear brake locked, slide, release, annnnnndddd there's the highside I need.....Ahhh, sliding down the pavement wif my bros!"




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I am generally not one to laugh at the misery of others, but, that shit right there made me chuckle.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:59 PM   #323
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I still say its front brake lockup for the way the bike went down SO quick with little off-tracking of the rear to the front.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:14 PM   #324
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I still say its front brake lockup for the way the bike went down SO quick with little off-tracking of the rear to the front.
I agree, That's what it looks like by the way his bike just went over..
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:25 PM   #325
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1st thang I thought of; this thread. Guess his pipes weren't loud enough!

Full story
First thing I thought of- three firefighters showed up at the scene of the crash in full turnout gear; why couldn't the rider?
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:27 PM   #326
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As a bit of feedback... Monday I was coaching a braking clinic, a little event we do for instructors here- stopping and swerving working up to 70mph.

One of the guys managed to lock both wheels (ST1100), release, and still stopped in close to the expected distance for the speed we were at.

Guess he forgot to lay 'er down.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:31 AM   #327
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My friend in the OP said he was looking to the side of the road and when he looked again forward, he saw the SUV was too close for him to stop. So the cause was him being distracted and thus following too closely for his abilities to stop.
I can't imagine letting a vehicle getting too close without knowing it. I'll knock on wood about now.

It seems that he needs to work on his ability to predict potential dangers or traps in addition to proper bike control. He may even have to be a better predictor than a skilled rider since he needs more distance to come to a stop.

I'm pretty sure that if you keep working with him that he'll improve.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:20 AM   #328
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I can't imagine letting a vehicle getting too close without knowing it. I'll knock on wood about now.

It seems that he needs to work on his ability to predict potential dangers or traps in addition to proper bike control. He may even have to be a better predictor than a skilled rider since he needs more distance to come to a stop.

I'm pretty sure that if you keep working with him that he'll improve.
I am not the person to instruct him. I suggested he take instructions on the track with a professional. It was an easy sale. He's going as soon as he gets back from Europe.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:58 PM   #329
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Yesterday, my sheepskin was off to the side. So I was lifting my butt, and trying to get it back in place. I thought to my self, the video this would make it went bad.

Noticed some singe marks on the fur when I stopped. I can just imagine what you guys would say about that wreck.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:48 PM   #330
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Yesterday, my sheepskin was off to the side. So I was lifting my butt, and trying to get it back in place. I thought to my self, the video this would make it went bad.

Noticed some singe marks on the fur when I stopped. I can just imagine what you guys would say about that wreck.
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