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Old 06-09-2013, 10:59 PM   #796
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Installed Gators. would love to get rid of the fender if someone makes a nice looking fork brace that bolts up in its place.



started making my own fender eliminator. it is not finished, but this is the new plate position.





I'll be working on the exhaust next when I get back into town next week
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #797
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Installed Gators. would love to get rid of the fender if someone makes a nice looking fork brace that bolts up in its place.


Those gaiters are the best $37 you can spend on the Bolt. Looks great!
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:04 AM   #798
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Agreed ... looks awesome!
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:00 AM   #799
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^^Nice work!
The gaiters look better than those weird Popsicle-stick looking things on there stock. Front fenders are required here by law (and rain and sand).
The rear fender cleaned up nice! (Although IMHO a Lucas or Sparto style light would be cleaner looking than the stock taillight).
Looking forward to more exhaust progress!
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:35 AM   #800
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(Although IMHO a Lucas or Sparto style light would be cleaner looking than the stock taillight).


I was thinking it needs an LED headlight in the stock bucket to complement the rear LED.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:30 AM   #801
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Now, V&H needs to release their short shots in black for this bike and im sold!
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:43 PM   #802
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^^Nice work!
The gaiters look better than those weird Popsicle-stick looking things on there stock. Front fenders are required here by law (and rain and sand).
The rear fender cleaned up nice! (Although IMHO a Lucas or Sparto style light would be cleaner looking than the stock taillight).
Looking forward to more exhaust progress!
Thanks!

I must be one of the few wierd people that actually like the stock tail light
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:09 PM   #803
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Saw one of these at the dealer the other... Go to tap on the engine..All plastic.. Granted it felt nice, didn't look too bad, but just felt really cheap with all the plastic..
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:48 PM   #804
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Saw one of these at the dealer the other... Go to tap on the engine..All plastic.. Granted it felt nice, didn't look too bad, but just felt really cheap with all the plastic..
If you really think about it, plastic doesn't get as hot as metal. maybe it was designed that way on purpose
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:00 PM   #805
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If you really think about it, plastic doesn't get as hot as metal. maybe it was designed that way on purpose
Or maybe the plastic was designed as a disguise so as to look more like it's intended competition, afterall Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:53 AM   #806
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Or maybe the plastic was designed as a disguise so as to look more like it's intended competition, afterall Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
Or maybe plastic is just cheap to mold...

For those that only care about a "look" and not the feel of things, plastic often makes a very good substitute, depending on how UV stable it is. But, for those, like myself, that are very tactile oriented, plastic just often seems like a cheap substitute for "the real thing". Kinda like particle board furniture as opposed to real wood....

Again, it's just a personal preference and taste thing. Either it's fine, or it's not, depending on how you view it...
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:15 PM   #807
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Or maybe the plastic was designed as a disguise so as to look more like it's intended competition, afterall Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
Suggested reading. Noob a few posts up should give it a go too.

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:16 PM   #808
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Or maybe plastic is just cheap to mold...

For those that only care about a "look" and not the feel of things, plastic often makes a very good substitute, depending on how UV stable it is. But, for those, like myself, that are very tactile oriented, plastic just often seems like a cheap substitute for "the real thing". Kinda like particle board furniture as opposed to real wood....

Again, it's just a personal preference and taste thing. Either it's fine, or it's not, depending on how you view it...
While we're taking passive aggressive broadsides...

I'd rather they spent the money on a recently designed engine with some modern tech in it by saving a few bucks on the parts I'll just toss anyway.

And that's kind of what happened.

Let's see... pushrods and 4 cams in a relatively frail underengineered case, or twin cams, 8 valves in a mill designed by the people who brought us the R1?

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:36 PM   #809
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While we're taking passive aggressive broadsides...

I'd rather they spent the money on a recently designed engine with some modern tech in it by saving a few bucks on the parts I'll just toss anyway.

And that's kind of what happened.

Let's see... pushrods and 4 cams in a relatively frail underengineered case, or twin cams, 8 valves in a mill designed by the people who brought us the R1?

Exactly. You know what they say...what's the quickest way to convert gas into noise at the expense of horsepower, Harley! Ha ha ha. I almost bought one. Glad I never now. Much rather a bolt than a sportster and a modded vulcan 900 custom than a softtail or dyna.

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While we're taking passive aggressive broadsides...

I'd rather they spent the money on a recently designed engine with some modern tech in it by saving a few bucks on the parts I'll just toss anyway.

And that's kind of what happened.

Let's see... pushrods and 4 cams in a relatively frail underengineered case, or twin cams, 8 valves in a mill designed by the people who brought us the R1?

Passive aggressive? Really? Plastic is what it is, a cost efficient way to make things. I have several bikes in my garage that have tons of it and it does what it was designed to do. I was just responding to the posts above mine, and like I said, it's just a personal taste thing. Some people don't mind it, like yourself obviously. In fact, on most of my other bikes I don't either. And, when I first looked at my Sportster I didn't give it much thought really. But, after living with it for a while, taking things apart and tinkering with it some, I've just developed a greater appreciation for the feel of its components. Something I'd never actually considered or put much stock in until I actually experienced it.

I made the reference to furniture because I do, and always have hated particle board furniture. I just prefer antiques and real wood pieces. I like opening the drawers in my antique oak chest of drawers and seeing the dove tail joints in the corners. It just gives me a feeling of old world craftsmanship that I find missing in much of the mass produced stuff of today. In fact, when I first bought that chest it wasn't in great shape. I bought it at an auction, came home, took it all apart and rebuilt it. So, it should be good for another hundred years or so. Particle board can actually be more stable and less prone to warp with humidity changes, so in some ways it has advantages for furniture construction. It can also be molded into complex shapes, and even have quite convincing faux finishes applied, while being quick and cheap to produce. But underneath, it still is what it is... not real. Some people get that. Some people don't. Not saying one person's way is "better" than the other. It's just a feeling.

On the engine front...

I might tend to agree if we were talking about taking real advantage of that new tech as they did in the R1, or countless other manufacturers have done with OHC and 4 valve heads. But, if we're talking about 50 lb/lbs and 40 some-odd HP? My Sportster does that, and a good bit more actually, and with just two valves that never need adjusting. In fact as most anyone knows, 4 valve heads really only come into their own when chasing higher RPM and higher HP. For low RMP torque two do just fine.

And if you'd care to drag yourself out of Harley's sad days under AMF, and look into them, you might just find that, while they have kept their classic architecture, they have made great strides in engineering and reliability these days. Not to the standards of Honda and Yamaha perhaps, but still not like the old days either. I'd also put the quality of fit and finish up against anything being built today as well.

And believe me, you're preaching to the choir here. For over 30 years of my riding career I loathed anything to do with the MoCo and for the most part would have been agreeing with you 100%. But, now, after honestly experiencing one, my opinions have changed. Or maybe it's just my tastes?
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