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Old 04-10-2013, 12:48 PM   #91
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I have a zuk M50 and I think it needs a 6th gear pretty badly.

Guess I'd have to ride a Bolt to see if it's better but my guess is they're not that far apart tranny wise.



In 5th on my M50 I top out at 90 on a level surface, which is fine. I would like to be able to "cruise" at 80ish but the engine is just working too hard for me to leave it there for long stretches.
I used to have a VX800 (same motor as the M50) and I traded it for a GSX1100G for that very reason. It just sounded like it was gonna grenade itself at 80+ mph, and I had to run that fast to keep up with rush hour traffic.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:56 PM   #92
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Its been over 25 years since I had my Sportstrer but my main memory of it was the vibration over 50 mph because it only had 4 gears. I still have my v-star 650 but it hasent been out of the barn in 5 years, I dont even remember how many gears it has off the top of my head.

The "right" number of gears is how they work with the available power and intend use.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:41 PM   #93
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I think it's gorgeous. I think it will be a blast to ride.

As for a 5 sp vs 6 sp - what matters is how the gears are spaced, not how many there are. My Nomad has a 5, and imo that is all it needs. I used to have a Shadow 1100 with a 4 sp, and never thought it needed a fifth. On the other hand, I have had 6 sp bikes that I thought needed another gear. It used to be "stylish" to have a 4sp. I guess I'm showing my age. Lots of torque and a broad powerband helps too.
My H-D is also fine with five. On the other hand, my Triumph needs a seventh. Fortunately, it's a chain final drive ... .
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:51 PM   #94
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I think that a bike can get away with fewer gears if it has torque over a broad rpm range. My Harley has torque but over a small range (I think my F150 truck has a higher redline) so it needs 6 speeds. The FJR that I demo’ed when I checked out the Bolt had torque and a huge rpm range and 5 speeds seemed like plenty. I would guess that the Bolt is a little revier than a Harley so maybe 5 speeds is enough?
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:06 PM   #95
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Review #2 They friggin LOVE it

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...iew-91561.html


The writer just gushes over the power and suspension!



And as far as all the transmission talk

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The five-speed transmission is ideally proportioned, providing long, even throws throughout the range. There was no jarring feedback when downshifting, adding to the Bolt’s affable nature in city traffic; Star credits the tranny’s straight-cut gear dogs, and we’ll take their word for it. At cruising speeds, fifth gear provided plenty of room for the engine to stretch out and still reserved a healthy amount of throttle response; passing dawdling drivers required no gear changes. Clutch actuation is light and breezy, and even after a long day of full-tilt urban assault, my left hand felt zero fatigue.

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Old 04-10-2013, 04:15 PM   #96
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In most cases when manufacturers change to a six speed the top gear ratio remains the same or close. I doubt a sixth gear would help the acceleration of the bolt. None of us will know until someone actually rides the beast.
It looks like a lot of people here don't get this.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:27 PM   #97
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New pics from review #2

Basic Black fans (kraven, this means you )




I didn't know the black model doesn't have the Bolt logo on the tank. Hmmm...could change things. Dammit, I told myself I wasn't going to buy another black motorcycle

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Old 04-10-2013, 04:51 PM   #98
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For the Pearl White guys





I'd say these two Matte Gray's match up nicely



Okay, I'm back to wanting Camo Green


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Old 04-10-2013, 06:00 PM   #99
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Another review...

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Old 04-10-2013, 06:54 PM   #100
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Love the pearl white..not the bolt logo. And I bet its cleared over
The aftermarket pipe company's will make bank on this one. Good to see a new clean thread for this bike.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:59 PM   #101
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:15 PM   #102
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Can only speak about 6th on the bikes I now have or have had in the past.

The DR 650 does fine with 5 speeds and I can run 70-75 without feeling the need to upshift.

Had a few newer HDs (Sporty, Dyna, Softail and Bagger) and always was looking for a 6th gear when running above 70. At some point, thinking when they went from 88" to 96" in 2007 or 08 that all the big twins got a 6th gear and I love the 6th gear on my '12 Road Glide but it is a 103" so it has the tq to pull the load.
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I really wish the XR1200 had a 6th gear. Living on the coast I have a 3-4 hour ride to get to the twisties and running interstate speeds at 75-85 puts the rpms around 4200-4500 which is 2/3rds of the max rpm. It runs fine at these higher speeds but sure would be nice to drop the rpms down 500 or so. Some have swapped pulleys to do so but this is always at the expense of losing some lower rpm grunt which is what makes the XR so much fun to ride.
Last time I went to the twisties same thing happened...coast to hills the sporty really needed another gear at 80. I reached for it several times but she was giving me all she had.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:27 PM   #103
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Finally a decent review, but I'm getting annoyed at the flannel shirt uniform. They are making this bike so cliche even before it's released.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:49 PM   #104
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Finally a decent review, but I'm getting annoyed at the flannel shirt uniform. They are making this bike so cliche even before it's released.
maybe we need to do a group buy on red flannel shirts?
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:51 PM   #105
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Neat.

Not sure about the front downtubes though. Frame kinda sticks out.
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