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Old 04-22-2013, 11:53 AM   #331
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Pardon the question, but do those change the way the bike handles? Do they make it top heavy? Are they affected by wind gusts?
No more than stock.

The weight distribution is changed by both the rider position (higher and further back) and any luggage you may or may not add, that you should be able to tune out with the preload.

I have both clip-ons and handlebars for my Speed Triple, I used to swap it back and forth depending on if I was commuting or in moutains (or at the track) that week.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:26 PM   #332
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When the crossplane crank R1 came out i was all gung-ho to buy one so I went for a test ride. Could have had it out for few hours but brought it back in 20min. Sounded good but thats about all. Would never trade it for the 05-06 gixxer. It did not stack up in any department. Might be a good tractible motor but it was boring as shit.

All you guys arguing tha all liter bikes are fast and torque enough...You're right to a point but obviously you havent riden to many different makes and year spreads to realy see the diference. The difference is the ability to short shift out of corners and have the most umph with least amount of consequances....05-06 gixxer has that and the top end thats still amazing and neuteral handling and most comfy ergonomics. This is why it's still praised by many as favorite even amongst the latest.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:29 PM   #333
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MY KTM 950 has enough grunt coming out of turns to spin up the back wheel and wheelie at the same time, but it doesn't have the top end rush of the big bore 1000s. They are all really similar, same ice cream, different flavor. I don't think stripple can go wrong with any of them. Whatever is the best deal.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:43 PM   #334
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I posted dynos from both bikes, and I would bet money that you would NEED a dyno to tell the difference.

That, and it simply doesn't matter, any deficiency in torque can be fixed with the final drive, these aren't direct drive machines, the torque is multiplied three different times in the drive line.

I wasn't referencing any particular bikes, just the general application. Changing gearing changes revs, time in gear, etc. I like torque-rich, low-mid rev powerful engines. I also like tall gearing for relaxed cruising on the highway. Changes are, well...changes. Neither good or bad in and of themselves.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:51 PM   #335
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Didn't notice you were down here in Fl.
Small world.
I'm in the TSB site too.
What city you in?
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:15 PM   #336
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Those are not hard bags. Those are warp nacelles.

They been called worse! LOL
Just kidding, but I actually had to look up what that was! LOL
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:17 PM   #337
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Pardon the question, but do those change the way the bike handles? Do they make it top heavy? Are they affected by wind gusts?
I haven't had anything in there as weight is concerned. I figured it wouldn't be as bad as riding with my GF on the back, probably better since I don't expect to have more than 60 lbs total. Also, the wind turbulence was not even remotely noticeable.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:27 PM   #338
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Rico,

That bike is a thing of beauty! I'm assuming that you went with convertibars on your bike? What kind of reach increase do you get all the way up?

I really like that bracket idea also.

Thanks for showing us your machine. That's the kind of machine thatbim dreaming about...
Haven't put the bars on yet. Waiting to make the custom spacer to lift the fairing. Should be soon though. Plus I will probably need extended brake lines. Another thing, on the R1 the steering damper mounts on the handle bar and frame, so you also need to buy an aftermarket fork clamp to mount the damper. I will be taking lots of pictures pictures when I get around to put it together.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:35 PM   #339
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When the crossplane crank R1 came out i was all gung-ho to buy one so I went for a test ride. Could have had it out for few hours but brought it back in 20min. Sounded good but thats about all. Would never trade it for the 05-06 gixxer. It did not stack up in any department. Might be a good tractible motor but it was boring as shit.

All you guys arguing tha all liter bikes are fast and torque enough...You're right to a point but obviously you havent riden to many different makes and year spreads to realy see the diference. The difference is the ability to short shift out of corners and have the most umph with least amount of consequances....05-06 gixxer has that and the top end thats still amazing and neuteral handling and most comfy ergonomics. This is why it's still praised by many as favorite even amongst the latest.
I would agree with you, but me personally, the 05 GSXR 1000 had too short distance from the seat to the pegs for me to sit comfortable.......hell of an engine thou.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:37 PM   #340
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What city you in?
Tampa, near the casino. Ride out every Sunday, too much work the rest of the week.
I'm always on www.tampasportbikes.com
RICO on the board.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:30 PM   #341
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O hell, not this shit again!!!!

Your points are appreciated Single. But let me sum it up like this;

My DD car is set up to make big power. It has very stiff suspension to grab the road hard and stick. Because of this, it is not as comfortable or easy or user friendly as it would be in stock form or compared to an Accord or any SUV. But I put up with because IT'S WHAT I PREFER.

I don't want a VFR/Sprint/FJR/ST. I appreciate the merits of those machines, and I'll probably go back to them in the future after I've scratched this itch.

My car isn't dangerous unless I put my foot down, and my SS bike that I set up for travel won't be dangerous either unless I grab a handful.

I see what you're saying, and no disrespect intended, but it doesn't matter. It's about what I want to do. I'm not a kid and I have a lot of experience on two wheels.

This argument could go on forever, so let's put it to bed. It's my bike, my idea. It's very possible that I'll do this and say, "that sucked, Single was right!"

Oh well, I'm sure that I'll have fun in the process. And honestly, I really, really like fun. That's how I roll.
Honestly I'm not sure why you are so upset. I'm simply posting my experiences and having a discussion with a few other members about very specific aspects of superbike ownership. You certainly don't need to justify to me why you want a motorcycle and I'm not trying to be the ultimate adjudicator of who buys what. If my responses aren't helpful for you, then just ignore them, they may benefit other people in your shoes who have different priorities and are considering buying a superbike.

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Old 04-22-2013, 06:46 PM   #342
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When the crossplane crank R1 came out i was all gung-ho to buy one so I went for a test ride. Could have had it out for few hours but brought it back in 20min. Sounded good but thats about all. Would never trade it for the 05-06 gixxer. It did not stack up in any department. Might be a good tractible motor but it was boring as shit.
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You can have my GSXR1000 for $6500! :-)

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Old 04-22-2013, 06:51 PM   #343
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Honestly I'm not sure why you are so upset. I'm simply posting my experiences and having a discussion with a few other members about very specific aspects of superbike ownership. You certainly don't need to justify to me why you want a motorcycle and I'm not trying to be the ultimate adjudicator of who buys what. If my responses aren't helpful for you, then just ignore them, they may benefit other people in your shoes who have different priorities and are considering buying a superbike.

Cheers

My man, I'm not upset. I suppose that I'm just trying to head off another 7 page argument.

And, I suppose that I take issue a bit with people saying that it's silly to use a SS for this purpose. As I write that I realize that it actually is. But, I don't so much like being told what's best for me. I understand where you're coming from thought. It's all good.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:55 PM   #344
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You can have my GSXR1000 for $6500!
We should talk.

First I need to know where "internet heaven" is...
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:54 PM   #345
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I wasn't referencing any particular bikes, just the general application. Changing gearing changes revs, time in gear, etc. I like torque-rich, low-mid rev powerful engines. I also like tall gearing for relaxed cruising on the highway. Changes are, well...changes. Neither good or bad in and of themselves.
You aren't going to get V-twin like tall, the primary is usually shorter and the transmission will be closer ration normally, mainly because your operating range from a normal big bore twin to a 1000cc I-4 is possibly 30-40%, the red lines on the I-4s are frequently in the neighborhood of 12,000.

I was more commenting on what changing the bike does to the chassis, all of the super sports are front end biased weightwise, this is by design, it helps to keep the front on the ground under throttle. When the rider sits straight up on the bike is IS more likely to try to walk around. Luggage is really neither hear nor there, they actually handle faster as you add weight high on the bike, it less effect than a passenger, unless your passenger is a 6 year old.

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I would agree with you, but me personally, the 05 GSXR 1000 had too short distance from the seat to the pegs for me to sit comfortable.......hell of an engine thou.

The pegs can be dropped, GSXRs are actually fairly forgiving as far as seat to peg clearance usually. You want no seat to peg distance try a R6 or 675 Daytona. On my Daytona my knees are actually higher than my elbows when I tuck in....I think my pegs are an inch and a half taller than stock (its a track bitch)
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