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Old 04-16-2013, 07:15 PM   #106
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Wtf, you are looking for 3 degrees?! that's R1200RT territory! you can definitely do this with a 15-20 degree lean. Here's the LSL kit for the '05 zx10R
http://www.spieglerusa.com/handlebar...n-kit-4304.htm
You will need to go with a higher bar, experimentation and measuring will be required but I don't see why you can't make that work.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:22 PM   #107
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^^^guys stop wasting your time giving this guy (stripple) advice.the cycle ergo thing was suggested to him 4 days ago on the first page of this thread and he's just now checking it out ???? the lsl bars and converti bars were suggested numerous times as well and he ignored that advice,I don't think this guy ever had any real intention of going with a "true" liter bike.We've been stroked, lol
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:25 PM   #108
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I agree, how could anyone expect to turn an RR bike into a bike with straight up ergos? yeah, waste of time here.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:35 PM   #109
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I said that as well. Any literbike today will either scare the hell out of him or toss him off. If he really hasn't ridden in some years, he truly won't be ready....

Any literbike for the last 3 years at least will do 100 mph in 1st gear, 135 in second & there are four gears left. Even the 600s have 115-125 hp. That kind of power isn't really needed or usable except for bragging rights.

And, you can ride a 200-400 mile day on anything. That is long distance riding on a cruiser.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:41 PM   #110
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Shit yeah, I test rode a '04 ZX10 with a pipe and dropped it down into 1st on the highway. That kind of power is not only terrifying but totally ludacris in the street or the track and that was at 6000ft in denver. I wanted one REALLY bad! Decided against it because I knew I'd get rid of it in a few months because I knew it would either kill me or land me in jail or ruin every ride becuase I'd feel guilty for exploiting it's power in public.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:37 PM   #111
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^^^guys stop wasting your time giving this guy (stripple) advice.the cycle ergo thing was suggested to him 4 days ago on the first page of this thread and he's just now checking it out ???? the lsl bars and converti bars were suggested numerous times as well and he ignored that advice,I don't think this guy ever had any real intention of going with a "true" liter bike.We've been stroked, lol

Hahaha!

Listen, ya big grump. I didn't know know what kind of ergos were possible on a litre bike. That was kind of the point of the thread. I was hoping that some sort of solution would put me "mostly upright" as I said on the first page. It looks like the best I can get is 20% forward lean. I'm not sure that I can realistically do that. But, an old GSXR or ZX10 is cheap, so maybe I'll pick one up and set it up with bars. I don't know, just sort of seemed like a reality check after I looked at the ergo calculator...


Yes, it was suggested to me 4 days ago and I'm just now checking it out. I'm not trying to hide behind the "I'm busy" excuse, but fuck, I'm busy!! I own and run 2 businesses, and I teach at a local college. Sorry, I just now got to it.

Good lord, I'm not trying to "stroke" anyone. I was interested in the options, and what models and years others have had success with. Fucking hell, tough crowd...
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:44 PM   #112
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Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa a Ninja 1000 ain't gonna thrill you anything like a ZX10. I thought you wanted to put up with bad ergos for the thrill of a literbike???? What has this whole thread been about? First you want to put up with anything, not you're afraid of a little lean to the bars?

Look, a GSXR or ZX10 with a LSL bar conversion is all you need. I'm gonna be pissed if you settle for that Ninja 1k dog!

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=3343
I didn't say that, pardner. I said I needed to be mostly upright.

First post, parameter #6

Hell, maybe I'll just do it anyway...
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:22 AM   #113
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For the Daytona aficionados....





Fully set up for long and sporty touring. Custom build by request Corbin Gunfighter seat, lowered pegs, stock clip ons, Throttlemeister for giving the arms a break, wrist rest for the rest of the time, full Givi WingRack imported from England with a couple E35 saddlebags and an E45 top box sourced locally. It's got beans and handles pretty well on a set of Pilot Road 2s.

I'm 55, 5'8" and have a few pretty long days on it. It's a keeper for me.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:39 AM   #114
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One step closer to my Z1000 Sport Touring setup. Had a custom luggage rack built and powder coated by my Dad for the bike..





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Old 04-17-2013, 09:40 AM   #115
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Nice Daytona. I'm gonna call a local guy about one today. Hope to check it out this weekend.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:47 AM   #116
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I didn't say that, pardner. I said I needed to be mostly upright.

First post, parameter #6

Hell, maybe I'll just do it anyway...
Yes, and when bikes that are mostly upright were suggested, you said they were't fast or flickable enough. When literbikes were suggested with a bar conversion you denied those as well. I know it's a tough decision but you have to start with the things you CAN'T change and then change the things you can change. This means literbike a with bar converison or a Ninja 1000 with $5,000 worth of engine work that will substantially reduce reliability.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:51 AM   #117
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Well, after lotsa playing on cycle-ergos.com, looks like I'll be getting a Ninja 1000.

My ST3 is 20% forward lean according to the website, even that bugs me after a while.

Looks like with a $150 bar rise kit for the Ninja 1000, I'll be at 3% lean.


I'm not going to get a GSXR to that position without some ape hangers


Well, I suppose I'll have fun making my N1K a fast fun machine....
That seems like a well thought out plan. That is a sweet bike that I would consider, if I was in the market for a new sport tourer.

Post up some pics when she comes in
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:56 PM   #118
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Yes, and when bikes that are mostly upright were suggested, you said they were't fast or flickable enough. When literbikes were suggested with a bar conversion you denied those as well. I know it's a tough decision but you have to start with the things you CAN'T change and then change the things you can change. This means literbike a with bar converison or a Ninja 1000 with $5,000 worth of engine work that will substantially reduce reliability.

I hear ya. I have this internal struggle I guess. I flip flop back and forth trying to decide. After I looked at the ergo calculator, I felt like it would be just like my ST3, which is still a bit too forward sometimes. I've been slammed on my head and neck more times than I can count, it's unfortunately taken its toll.

I WANT something more aggressive, light, capable, and down right psycho than the current ST offerings. I guess I was sorta naive to the fact that it's pretty much impossible to get a true SS to where I want in terms of comfort. I figured there has to be a way, that's why I started the thread. I go back and forth, say fukit and get the ZX10/GSXR and just have my Percocet handy after my ride, or get the Ninja 1000. I'm inclined at this point to get the SS because it's cheaper and set it up, then get a N1K next spring as there will be more on the used market. I always have at least 3 bikes in the garage anyways.

I dunno, I just know that I've had a shitload of bikes, but I haven't really "felt" a bike since I stopped buying SS bikes 10 years ago.


Thanks for the reply Colorado-Rider, you make a strong point...
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:55 PM   #119
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Not impossible at all. Get the literbike, do the bars and pegs. Everything else like the seat, you would have to do to any bike, anyway.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:37 PM   #120
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It sounds like you just want bonkers power with a handlebar. I'd say the king of that right now is Aprilia with the Tuono V4R. The older Tuono's might be in your budget, but honestly the current crop of naked Japanese liter sports-based engines leave very little wanting in the "bonkers" department. CB1000R, Z1000, FZ1, try them all.
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