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Old 04-17-2013, 08:21 PM   #1
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Scooter cargo trailers!

Just wanted to share some of the scooter cargo trailers I've designed and built over the past few years. I had these pics posted in the "Hacks" section of ADVrider and one of the guys suggested I share it with the "Battle Scooter" guys.

I currently own a Vespa PX150, Honda Ruckus, and Honda Metropolitan. I've built cargo trailers for all three bikes.

Last summer I rode my 49cc Ruckus 7,330 miles on a solo charity ride. I went from Pittsburgh, PA to Matamoros Mexico...then from Mexico to Santa Barbara, CA. The journey took about three months. I had the Ruckus trailer on my journey...and it worked out great. My goal was to ride 10,000 miles but I got hit by an RV in California and my arm was broken. I fought with the ER doctors to put my arm in a cast in a position that would allow me to continue the journey but they refused...lol...imagine that...


Enjoy the pics and feel free to ask any questions.

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:57 PM   #2
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Beautiful work!
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:13 PM   #3
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Cool I ve seen your first one before but the other are nicer. seem like you don't use a shock . One day I ll build my own PV 41 clone now I ve got a copy of the drawing for the main tubes and the bends etc.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:56 AM   #4
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Hi again Tom

I`m glad you`ve posted this thread about your really impressive trailers in the scooter forum as well...now all the scooter fans will get the chance to admire and be amazed by your imagination and craftsmanship.

Thanks again for sharing with us.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:24 AM   #5
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The Ruckus trailer has a homemade functional look, the design matching the Ruckus to a T. The trailers you made for the Metropolitan and Vespa are as different from the Ruckus trailer as they are from each other, yet they too fit their intended scooters as well. Great engineering and design work.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:13 AM   #6
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Thanks for the compliments men.

I spend an inordinate amount of time on the cosmetics. I place each scooter under a microscope and study the lines and design of the bike. I then use this as a basis for the design of the trailer.

For the Ruckus trailer, I was after a military-like, component-assembled feel. The Ruckus is a tough little bike...bare-bones with a rugged look. I wanted the trailer to reflect that. Also, I always strive for an "OEM" feel. I know I've done my job when someone thinks I bought the trailer from the respective manufacturer. I've had several people say that they thought I bought the trailer with the bike at the Honda dealer.

For the Vespa trailer, I was after a post-war exuberance, over-the-top, kitschy feel. Some of the design in the 50's was pretty outrageous. I love mid-century design and really enjoyed creating the Vespa trailer. My own brother thought I bought this trailer from the Vespa dealer. Awesome. I did my job.

As for the Metropolitan trailer, I did it in "dieselpunk" style. (www.dieselpunk.org) The aesthetic covers the end of WWI to the end of WWII. The look is generally somber...reflecting the war time atmosphere, rationing, and hard economic times.
I studied a lot of American and German military hardware, and took particular inspiration from the VW Beetle of the early 1940's.

The Metropolitan played perfectly to this style. In black, it is a rather somber, utilitarian-looking vehicle. It reminds me of the first generation post-war Vespas. The Metropolitan really had that "scooter for the people" feel...

AS A SIDE NOTE: I LOVE 1950's design and the exuberant attitude of the era. I am FIGHTING the urge to take the Metropolitan and the trailer and barf chrome and white wall tires all over both...lol. I really, really like the somber utilitarian look of the bike and trailer as they are but the seduction of chrome and white walls may prove to be a temptation to strong to resist







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Old 04-18-2013, 07:16 AM   #7
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that is sooo cool!!! I really like what you did!

Congrats amigo!

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:17 AM   #8
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AS A SIDE NOTE: I LOVE 1950's design and the exuberant attitude of the era. I am FIGHTING the urge to take the Metropolitan and the trailer and barf chrome and white wall tires all over both...lol. I really, really like the somber utilitarian look of the bike and trailer as they are but the seduction of chrome and white walls may prove to be a temptation to strong to resist
Oh yes...yes indeedy...they`re CRYING OUT for chrome blingola and whitewalls.

DO IT !!

Then SHOW US !!!

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:28 AM   #9
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I'm tellin' ya fellas...I can't resist chrome and whitewalls...I love the "POW"! of a vintage (or vintage-looking) bike decked out in all that over-the-top style.

Again, I'm really enjoying the war-time utility look of the Metropolitan and the trailer...but...chrome and white walls are like crack to a style junkie like me
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:18 PM   #10
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Montague,
I don't mind if you post the pics in other forums. Please feel free.

I've thought about starting a business designing and building scooter (and small displacement motorcycle) cargo trailers. I don't know if there's enough interest out there to keep such a company sustainable...because if I'd do it, it would be a full time venture...I have no interest in pursuing it part time. I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy

I think the bigger issue might be cost. In the age of made-in-China junk, where everything is cheap, cheap, cheap...my trailers might not be viable because of the cost. That's my biggest concern.

In my mind, my trailers are rolling art...I spend a huge amount of time on the aesthetics...(make no mistake, they are equally functional)...but the aesthetics are paramount to me. There's a ton of time an materials that go into each one.

Even if I designed a few standard models and "mass produced" them in small quantities, they'd still be $900 - $1,000...and I wouldn't be buying a Mercedes with the profits...

I recently designed a cost-reduced, open frame scooter cargo trailer that looks cool and could sell for $600 - $700. Not quite as "WOW" as the other ones, but a pretty damn cool trailer in it's own right.

Because my trailers are all one-offs, I've probably got $1,200 - $1,300 tied up in each one in time / materials. As a scooter enthusiast, I have no problem dropping a grand+ on a trailer. I've got myself convinced that I'm the only guy out there that would do that. Anyone care to prove me wrong?...lol...

Would any of you drop a grand on a beautiful, functional trailer for your scoot or small displacement motorcycle? If not, what is your price threshold? I am just looking for ANY reason to start a scooter cargo trailer company...lol...
Well I did, but at more than twice those amounts. That was because I had the work done at a welding fabricator and custom motorcycle shop and made
the mistake of not working out costs and having it put down in writing first. Lesson learned..I'll never do that again!!! But a grand or more added on to my
scoot? No problem. In fact I am doing that now by putting a Vetter streamliner fairing on one of my Honda Reflex scooters. (It's a work in progress even now
and may do that to another Reflex or maybe my Silverwing FSC600A scooter....decisions, decisions.)

BTW I lifted this post from the Hacks sub-forum, moved it here and nuked the old message because I'm not sure about the duplicate posting policy. Really, it's scooter stuff after all.

Anyway, here is my "Roamin' Chariot" I hauled camping gear from here in S.E. Michigan west to MO., east to NY., south to TN. and north to Traverse City
in Michigan. (so far) It's a blast and gets compliments wherever it goes.

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Old 04-18-2013, 05:41 PM   #11
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Enjoy the pics and feel free to ask any questions.

What beautiful and functional equipment. You have it figured out pretty well.

There's two runs of black hose along the left there. One for tail, brake and turn wires? Is there something besides wires in the other?
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:46 PM   #12
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The black hoses are all wiring. I don't remember exactly, but I think the turn signals are in one hose assembly and the tail light is in the other.

Thank you for the compliments.

I am an EXTREMELY visual person and when I build something it has to be beautiful AND functional...never one or the other...lol...
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:53 PM   #13
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My mind went straight to fuel in the 2nd. Congrats on your great work.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:45 PM   #14
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Bandito2,
I am sure you can attest to the functionality of a scooter cargo trailer. After I built my first one, I was hooked...lol.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:19 PM   #15
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Tom

I just donated on your Journey site. Please continue with your efforts to enlighten and educate! You should add a link in your sig line.

Your last post on the Journey blog from November says you'll pick up the ride in April. Where do you stand with this? Is it still a go?

What's the empty weight of the trailers? Is tongue weight part of the equation when loading?

I've been pulling a Piggybacker behind my RT for the past 4 years when 2 up, so I do ask with some interest as a fellow "puller". The PB is way too big for our needs, but it hasn't been any issues.

Continued good luck!!
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