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Old 04-21-2013, 06:44 PM   #1
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Question New Zealand in July, is it to cold and rainy...!?

We have a trip plan at the end of July to Sydney and debating if to spend a week in Queenland Australia (warmer) or fulfill a dream of many years and visit New Zealand, all base in the "winter season"

Ps: we will have a 21month old baby with us..

PsII: somehow I have the impression you guys don't get along all that well, but please try to be honest with your comments about what makes the most sense for the three of us..
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:30 PM   #2
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Hi Mate, rivalry between Oz & NZ is almost always of the friendly variety

In July I would take Queensland over NZ. It's the dry season in northern Oz & the ideal time to visit. We can have nice cool & clear weather in July but it's more likely to be cold & wet.

Save the NZ trip for when you can get away Jan/Feb/Mar

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:40 AM   #3
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Hi Mate, rivalry between Oz & NZ is almost always of the friendly variety

In July I would take Queensland over NZ. It's the dry season in northern Oz & the ideal time to visit. We can have nice cool & clear weather in July but it's more likely to be cold & wet.

Save the NZ trip for when you can get away Jan/Feb/Mar

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What he said -that's why the planes are always full going over to OZ during that time. The Pacific islands are nice I hear too.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:03 AM   #4
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The scenery in NZ (especially South Island) is often at its best in July. The mountains are stunning with the snow and although the mornings may be frosty, the days can sunny with bright blue skies and very little wind. On the other hand you could have rain and snow - its the luck of the draw. Warm clothing and sitting around a fire would be part of the experience. In the twenty years that I have lived in NZ can't say I've ever felt the need to get away from the winters.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #5
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the scenery in nz (especially south island) is often at its best in july. The mountains are stunning with the snow and although the mornings may be frosty, the days can sunny with bright blue skies and very little wind. On the other hand you could have rain and snow - its the luck of the draw. Warm clothing and sitting around a fire would be part of the experience. In the twenty years that i have lived in nz can't say i've ever felt the need to get away from the winters.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:14 PM   #6
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Hi Mate, rivalry between Oz & NZ is almost always of the friendly variety

In July I would take Queensland over NZ. It's the dry season in northern Oz & the ideal time to visit. We can have nice cool & clear weather in July but it's more likely to be cold & wet.

Save the NZ trip for when you can get away Jan/Feb/Mar

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:11 PM   #7
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Okay we are convince now, we will go to the north of Australia and hopefully some day we can visit your awesome country..
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:34 PM   #8
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Check out this site if you're after the normal weather patterns around the planet.

I like the dashboard view because you can see the normal ranges.

http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;...%20lake%20city

Using the embedded map scroll around to find out the places you're interested in. They have little yellow current temp boxes.

The buttons on the graphs show all sorts of neat things. You may like the 1 year view for holiday research.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:43 PM   #9
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The Aussies and the Kiwis generally get along pretty well......just the usual Trans-Tasman sporting rivalries and mocking each others relative accents.

But do ask them about the underarm bowling incident........ Yes that was quite a little show eh boys!

July is not the best time perhaps in NZ unless you like skiing and mountainous vistas, mostly in the South. Something the Aussies don't really have that many of (I'm surprised they haven't tried to flog them yet). But generally being winter it can be cold and wet over here and better in Aus.

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Old 05-04-2013, 10:51 PM   #10
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The scenery in NZ (especially South Island) is often at its best in July. The mountains are stunning with the snow and although the mornings may be frosty, the days can sunny with bright blue skies and very little wind. On the other hand you could have rain and snow - its the luck of the draw. Warm clothing and sitting around a fire would be part of the experience. In the twenty years that I have lived in NZ can't say I've ever felt the need to get away from the winters.
Scenery yes, riding conditions, not so great :).

Even if the roads are ridable, it'll be cold. For motorcyclists it's the sort of cold that cuts right to the bone and leaves you feeling chilled days after. Went back to NZ for a holiday with the kids - I had a rental car and seeing the motorcyclists coming down from the mountains brought back memories - bodies crouched right down - bike shaking slightly because the riders were shivvering uncontrollably. (Not pleasant memories ....).

A car is fine, but pay attention to the weather forecast and stay off the mountain roads if snow is expected.



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Old 05-09-2013, 06:09 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=PeterW;21335435]Even if the roads are ridable, it'll be cold. For motorcyclists it's the sort of cold that cuts right to the bone and leaves you feeling chilled days after. Went back to NZ for a holiday with the kids - I had a rental car and seeing the motorcyclists coming down from the mountains brought back memories - bodies crouched right down - bike shaking slightly because the riders were shivvering uncontrollably. (Not pleasant memories ....)./QUOTE]

Really?

I ride all year round and have no issues.

Appropriate gear helps.

Although if it's -5* or lower, I won't go out
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:55 AM   #12
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Scenery yes, riding conditions, not so great :).

Even if the roads are ridable, it'll be cold. For motorcyclists it's the sort of cold that cuts right to the bone and leaves you feeling chilled days after. Went back to NZ for a holiday with the kids - I had a rental car and seeing the motorcyclists coming down from the mountains brought back memories - bodies crouched right down - bike shaking slightly because the riders were shivvering uncontrollably. (Not pleasant memories ....).

A car is fine, but pay attention to the weather forecast and stay off the mountain roads if snow is expected.



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I am surprised. There are many of us who go touring in winter and I can't say I have ever seen the picture you describe. Must admit I have heated grips on both bikes and do resort to a Gerbing electric vest when it gets really cold. My wife who rides pillion has electric glove liners but for the rest we just rely on warm clothing. The pictures she takes from the pillion are often stunning and we probably do as many trips in winter as we do in summer.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:44 PM   #13
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Scenery yes, riding conditions, not so great :).
You've just got soft from living on the Gold Coast where even the rain is warm.

We don't have a riding "season" in this part of the world. Conditions and hazards just vary with the seasons is all.
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We have a trip plan at the end of July to Sydney and debating if to spend a week in Queenland Australia (warmer) or fulfill a dream of many years and visit New Zealand, all base in the "winter season"

Ps: we will have a 21month old baby with us..

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We will have a baby with us
Right... A small but important detail.... So. you won't be riding a motorbike then...

Were you planning on renting a car or a campervan? The worst part will be if you catch a nasty spell of weather and have to dash a few feet between a car and a motel in a shower.

Not sure what part of the US you're from. Do you have snow? Edit: I just saw your location, Salt lake city. Your winter weather is worse than ours!!! http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;...%20lake%20city Minus 5 Celcius holy crap!!.

Well, imagine if it was a mild clear day in winter, what would you take your bub outside in? Well same goes here... If the weather is crappy, then stay inside... If you're in a car, *turn the heater on...*

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or fulfill a dream of many years and visit New Zealand, .
Don't be put off by the weather. If you want to visit NZ, then do it.

Bub will be fine. It will be beautiful. You will have a great time. Just be realistic, you're on holiday *in winter*. Bring some warm clothing.

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Old 05-19-2013, 02:30 PM   #15
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Very cool.. (err.. no pun intended)

This website is great !! http://weatherspark.com/

FYI: Compare average winter temps from Salt Lake city with Christchurch NZ. (Christchurch is the southern most point with data on this website.)

At the peak of your winter Dec/Jan you spend more than 60% with temps freezing, and 30% cold, and god knows what purple means...

By comparison Christchurch spend 15% freezing, and 79 cold%, and the rest warmer.

Roughly speaking winter in Christchurch would be similar temps to March where you are. Wellington would be like April, And Auckland would be more like May.

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