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Old 04-25-2013, 01:29 AM   #46
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We have a 1400 acre ranch and with neighbors all around we have seen people try every combination of off road vehicle. SxS, ATV, Jeep, Kei Truck, Motorcycle, pickup, etc.

Each one has it's plus's and minus's just like everything else.

As far as the Kei truck argument goes their width is almost identical to a SxS and a Kei has a much greater load capacity. However a Kei is very very difficult to get in and out of if you are even average American height. I'm 6'0" and the two that I have driven have had my knees up against the dash and cursing life. Even the extended cabs are difficult to fit in. If you are a 5'3" person, then this isn't an issue.

For the OP, I can't see how a Kei would work for that reason alone.

I have run 2 SxS and here is my impression on them

Polaris Ranger-When they are in good working condition, they work great but there seem to be a really high number of wear items on them. Clutches, belts, bearings, hubs, electronics, cv joints, all seem to wear out very easily. The speedometer on our 6x6 is the nerve center for all the electronics, without it the front wheel hubs won't engage and all the safety triggers are disabled. $360 to replace that and its not waterproof, so it craps out frequently. Gurrrrr

And they are just engineered strangely to me. Instead of building one stout part they like to put 6 fragile parts together to make an assembly. I will work on motorcycles all day but I refuse to work on a Polaris ATV, they just baffle me why they design things like they do.

John Deere-The Work series is just that, built for work and nothing else. And what work they do, gets done very slowly because their excuse for suspension is pathetic. Avoid these at all costs. The diesel looks great on paper, horrible in practice. The one that I drove topped out at 12-15mph....awful

The JD Crossover series is pretty good tho. I've driven the XUV 550 and can't find fault with it. Tho I haven't had to work on it or really gotten a chance to find out how it's put together it seems very straight forward. Good performance, suspension, and load capacity. And it does about 30mph which is plenty.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:01 AM   #47
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"Polaris Ranger-When they are in good working condition, they work great but there seem to be a really high number of wear items on them. Clutches, belts, bearings, hubs, electronics, cv joints, all seem to wear out very easily. The speedometer on our 6x6 is the nerve center for all the electronics, without it the front wheel hubs won't engage and all the safety triggers are disabled. $360 to replace that and its not waterproof, so it craps out frequently."

I suppose everybody can build a bad one and you seemed to be blessed. My first 500 6x6 went through one drive belt, two cv joints, one carb rebuild, one battery and one set of tires in 1990 hours of use in 7 years. That is a LOT of work and I have no complaints. My current 800 4x4 has never been back to the dealer for anything and it's pushing 600 hrs. I am a stickler for maintenance and have a hydraulic car hoist that the Ranger goes up on at least every other month. I primarily use these for maintaining over 40 miles of fence and all the usual cattle chores on 5000 acres. Cell phone coverage is dismal here and a breakdown 7 miles from home would not be welcome so I heavily rely on their dependability. I didn't buy power steering and it's the only change I would make (getting older I guess).
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:51 AM   #48
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I became partially disabled in 2011 resulting from a mc crash. Since I could no longer walk on uneven terrain, I began seeking vehicles that would permit me to resume some of the outdoor pursuits I am passionate about.

Given my physical limitations, a side by side vehicle was required. Jeeps and similar were not considered because they would not be allowed on Sporting Clays courses.

That left me with the small "UTV" styled trucks, electric and gas powed golf carts, and side by side atv's. After exhaustive comparisons, I determined that a Polaris Ranger was the best suited vehicle for my needs. What follows are a few of the determining factors:
  1. Accessability. I was able to get in and out of the Ranger with ease, and I was able to operate the foot pedals even with the limited range of motion in my right knee. I liked the micro-trucks, but could not operate them. I could wedge my 6'3" 250# body into the vehicle, but I did not have enough range of motion in my leg to operate the gas or clutch.
  2. Towing/hauling capacity. Enough towing capacity to haul my goose decoy trailer into the field, to tow my boat around the yard, or to pull a trailer full of hunters to blinds. In addition, I can easily load a week's worth of firewood in the bed. (Well, my son can load it!)
  3. Off road ability. The Ranger is a beast off road. It handles mud and water very well. This was very important to me. Our farm has a great deal of swamp land, and the 6x6 Ranger handles it very well. The micro truck I rode in (I think it was a Suzuki) got stuck in less than 12" of mud. That was not acceptable.
  4. Ride quality. I found the Ranger's ride quality to be superior to the other utv's I tested.
  5. Parts & Service. The Ranger has a very good track record and I have 2 service locations within 1 hour of my home.
I do occasionally wish I would have compromised and gotten a lifted golf cart. They are much easier on my yard! They simply would not have met my "off road" needs.

I found a very good deal on a lightly used 2006 Ranger 6x6 that was literally owned by a "little old lady". Less than 100 hours of operation, always dealer serviced, and in excellent condition. I payed less than half of the initial purchase price, and I've been extremely happy with the vehicle.

Good luck on your purchase. The utility of these type of vehicles is amazing, and they really do open the land back up to those of us who are mobility impaired.

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Old 04-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #49
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Can you tell us more about it?
Whatdo you want to know?

My father has a ranch and he has both a gas powered Rzr and an electric Ranger. The electric Ranger is almost always preferred by adult users unless range is going to be an issue. The ranch is large and mountainous, and the steep climbs, especially in cold weather, can suck the juice. So, for a full day moving cattle or fencing in the steep stuff, it is the Rzr. But for checking the cows, refilling the mineral barrels, checking fences, showing visitors around, etc, it is the electric all the way.

The nephews/grandkids often take the Rzr because it is more fun for hooning around and looks cooler. It has also been rolled, three times, IIRC.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:39 PM   #50
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Probably the fact that every time I take my wife and kids riding on the trails, we're risking our lives because there's a drunk on a side by side around every corner. They've already made 4 wheelers dumb proof so that anybody can ride them (they are all practically automatics now) and now you have people with no business riding out on trails with freaking machines almost the size of a jeep. Thats my bitch. My neighbor who owns the farm just never uses his, so he said it was a wasted purchase in his eyes. I got called a liar for saying that for some reason. Use what you want, but I just dont see the purpose.

Is it reading comprehension or your emotional bias that allows you to go so far astray? The OP wants an ATV to address his current, and let's hope temporary, disability and for use on his own property. Who cares about the lone tooth mouth breathers you don't like on your favorite riding trails when answering the OP's query in the context of his intended use? Because you don't like ATV's they have no value? Because your neighbor has a piece of property for which a pickup is a better alternative means the OP should just stay in doors or, more fun yet, knock down all his trees so he can use a pickup - like a real man?

I don't mean to single you out, but these kinds of posts just piss me off. "Hi, I'm Bob and I'm looking at a Yamaha dirt bike." And then forty or fifty idiots chime in about how Ford pickups or vacations in China are superior ways to spend one's money. We're all individuals. What's best for one person might not be the best for everyone else. If you don't know which ATV would best suit his needs/purpose, move to another thread or enjoy the arguments put forth by those who know something about the topic at hand.




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Old 04-25-2013, 07:20 PM   #51
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:38 PM   #52
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I don't mean to single you out, but these kinds of posts just piss me off. "Hi, I'm Bob and I'm looking at a Yamaha dirt bike." And then forty or fifty idiots chime in about how Ford pickups or vacations in China are superior ways to spend one's money. We're all individuals. What's best for one person might not be the best for everyone else. If you don't know which ATV would best suit his needs/purpose, move to another thread or enjoy the arguments put forth by those who know something about the topic at hand.

Wow that may be signature worthy
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:32 PM   #53
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Is it reading comprehension or your emotional bias that allows you to go so far astray? The OP wants an ATV to address his current, and let's hope temporary, disability and for use on his own property. Who cares about the lone tooth mouth breathers you don't like on your favorite riding trails when answering the OP's query in the context of his intended use? Because you don't like ATV's they have no value? Because your neighbor has a piece of property for which a pickup is a better alternative means the OP should just stay in doors or, more fun yet, knock down all his trees so he can use a pickup - like a real man?

I don't mean to single you out, but these kinds of posts just piss me off. "Hi, I'm Bob and I'm looking at a Yamaha dirt bike." And then forty or fifty idiots chime in about how Ford pickups or vacations in China are superior ways to spend one's money. We're all individuals. What's best for one person might not be the best for everyone else. If you don't know which ATV would best suit his needs/purpose, move to another thread or enjoy the arguments put forth by those who know something about the topic at hand.




Phew. Rant over.
Your right. The OP asked for advice and I took it where it had no business going. Shitty thing for me to do. Hope the OP likes whatever he buys and enjoys the outdoors with it.
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Old 04-26-2013, 06:07 AM   #54
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:26 AM   #55
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Here's mine. Doesn't get as much use as some, but it runs almost everday and I haul wood out of the timber with it. 5 years and 350 hours and it did need a CDI box replaced. I think it was about $200, otherwise I love it. Even with a non adjustable seat and no power steering the 60 year old, 5'3", 120lb wife can drive it just fine.

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Here's mine. Doesn't get as much use as some, but it runs almost everday and I haul wood out of the timber with it. 5 years and 350 hours and it did need a CDI box replaced. I think it was about $200, otherwise I love it. Even with a non adjustable seat and no power steering the 60 year old, 5'3", 120lb wife can drive it just fine.


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Old 04-26-2013, 10:05 AM   #57
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Your right. The OP asked for advice and I took it where it had no business going. Shitty thing for me to do. Hope the OP likes whatever he buys and enjoys the outdoors with it.
An honest apology and not a douchey-snarky reply like many would have given? My hat is off to you, sir. And thanks.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:46 PM   #58
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Apologies if my suggestions (older Jeep or Kei trucks) helped run the thread off the rails. The OP asked for opinions and I've actually compared SxS UTVs and Kei trucks quite a bit. Both when I lived in Japan and upon returning to NA (and looking at imported Kei rigs, debating them as an option).

Healthy discussion is great IMO. That said, the OP should definitely go with what works best for his situation.

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Old 04-27-2013, 12:03 AM   #59
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My friend has a Mule on his cattle ranch. He beats the hell out of it and it still keeps ticking. But you know what they use the majority of the time? Golf carts, they pick them up second hand, revive the batteries, and they flog the heck out of them. They have the power to pretty much run all day. They have a couple of them to swap out when needed.

Still, I think the Diesel 4x4 Mules are bad ass.
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I have a truck, a 3/4 ton 4X4. It's way too big for what I want to do. The side by side device would allow me to take a friend to ride around in the trees. The Samurai, Tracker, mini truck, all that, is too big, too tall, geared too high, just wrong for my purpose.

I have 15 acres of trees that I planted. Some spaces are narrow. These various trucks are too big. My limited ability to walk and move means it needs to be easy to get in and out of. Imagine going for a pleasure ride. I am not going to do that in a snowstorm or on a hard-cold winter day. I don't believe I want a top, though I am uncertain on that.

My interest is in side by side ATV's. I am in a forced retirement for medical reasons. I want to have a nice ride and a nice day.
Is there water on your property that you may have to cross?

I had a go of one of these once.... it was an absolute scream, fantastically good fun, will go anywhere (6x6 or 8x8 options), skid-steer, fully amphibious.



If I'm ever lucky enough to own some land I'm having one.

Can tow an amphibious trailer too...
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