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Old 05-22-2013, 07:14 AM   #31
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in the 60csx Map Page / Map Setup / Tracks Page you can set a zoom level where tracks are not displayed.
I am looking on my old 76C, do you mean:

Map Page / Setup Map / Track Icon (2nd from left) / Max Zoom / Saved Tracks or Track Log?

Mine are set Auto and never experimented with this setting.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:24 AM   #32
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I am looking on my old 76C, do you mean:

Map Page / Setup Map / Track Icon (2nd from left) / Max Zoom / Saved Tracks or Track Log?

Mine are set Auto and never experimented with this setting.
yes....
I downloaded the 78 manual and found much less info on this stuff...didn't even find where it said how many tracks a 78 can handle...

I'm interested in the 78 as it seems it may be a better deal for someone who tends to use tracks made by others than a Montana.
I know someone who is probably not going to sit around studying google earth for remote roads and making tracks but would be happy to have me give him some tracks I've made and use them.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:11 AM   #33
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Another trait of the 60/76 was that the default setting (map setup page) for displayed tracks is 3,000 points while the active log can hold 10,000. I always bumped the 3000 number up to the maximum value it will accept which is 10,000. I have never noticed a downside to using the larger number, redraw and clutter seem normal.

Not sure if the 62/78 has any kind of similar setting.

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:34 AM   #34
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Another trait of the 60/76 was that the default setting (map setup page) for displayed tracks is 3,000 points while the active log can hold 10,000. I always bumped the 3000 number up to the maximum value it will accept which is 10,000.
Jerry, I think this one should be in your dualsportwest.com 60/76C Setup Settings instructions. Having it set to 3000 screwed me up one time. The tail end of my recorded track kept getting eaten up (packman style) on the map screen as I rode, and I couldn't figure out why. Eventually I found that setting and bumped it up to 10,000. I think it MIGHT slow down the map draw speed if you zoom WAY out with a long recorded track, but at least your whole track is shown.

The other related negative effect this can have is if you utilize the ACTIVE LOG XXX feature to pre-load a bunch of tracks to get around the 20 track limit. In that case, one or more ACTIVE LOG tracks you want to follow or see on the map may not be shown because it might be in the memory beyond the 3000 point (or whatever your setting is at). I quit using that ACTIVE LOG approach when I started converting large sets of tracks into maps with GPX2IMG.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:35 AM   #35
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Another trait of the 60/76 was that the default setting (map setup page) for displayed tracks is 3,000 points while the active log can hold 10,000. I always bumped the 3000 number up to the maximum value it will accept which is 10,000. I have never noticed a downside to using the larger number, redraw and clutter seem normal.

Not sure if the 62/78 has any kind of similar setting.

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yes and if you download the track to mapsource before saving you get the max # of points before saving cuts to 500 pts. (on 60/76)

I didn't see any reference to this in the 78 manual. Any 78 users have insight on this?
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:17 AM   #36
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yes and if you download the track to mapsource before saving you get the max # of points before saving cuts to 500 pts. (on 60/76)

I didn't see any reference to this in the 78 manual. Any 78 users have insight on this?
You wouldn't be using Mapsource with the 78. You'd be using Basecamp. While it is possible to use Mapsource, you wouldn't be getting the best out of the gps if you did so. Yes, Mapsource seems easier to use, but most people who put the effort into learning the differences stay with Basecamp, warts and all. BC is a lot better than it used to be. And the Mac version is better than the Windows version, if you have a choice.

And most people just set the 62/78/Montana/Oregon/Dakota/Colorado to auto-archive once a day, rather than specifically saving tracks. They end up dated properly in an Archive directory, and can be brought back to the Tracks menu by making a "Favorite" of the archived track.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:38 AM   #37
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You wouldn't be using Mapsource with the 78. You'd be using Basecamp. While it is possible to use Mapsource, you wouldn't be getting the best out of the gps if you did so. Yes, Mapsource seems easier to use, but most people who put the effort into learning the differences stay with Basecamp, warts and all. BC is a lot better than it used to be. And the Mac version is better than the Windows version, if you have a choice.

And most people just set the 62/78/Montana/Oregon/Dakota/Colorado to auto-archive once a day, rather than specifically saving tracks. They end up dated properly in an Archive directory, and can be brought back to the Tracks menu by making a "Favorite" of the archived track.
thanks for the info on the 78
my 60 creates the daily archive file but just can't access it inside the gps
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:27 PM   #38
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Jerry, I think this one should be in your dualsportwest.com 60/76C Setup Settings instructions. .
Good points along with two others in another post (type of Bat & zoom vs see tracks).

On your 1st, only a 76 issue with 76x, not limit or wrap on data card.

However my new 78 is due any day so to hell with that old crap, I will be working on new bling.
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However my new 78 is due any day so to hell with that old crap, I will be working on new bling.
'Bout time too! ;)
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yes and if you download the track to mapsource before saving you get the max # of points before saving cuts to 500 pts. (on 60/76)
Perhaps you just did not make yourself clear but this is wrong.

With 60/76x, you can same anything you want to 500 pts but if you upload to PC you get active log, saved 500 pt version, and everything you rode from your data card. Only if YOU decide to CLEAR Active Log do you kind of loose data but it is still on the data card so actually you can push all the buttons and nothing is lost.
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'Bout time too! ;)
Still have unused 76Cx with Garmin lense protector still in place, just couldn't give WestMarine my credit card #. You have no idea how cheep I am.

I am now getting clueless customers with 78 so time has come.
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However my new 78 is due any day
My 78 arrived today, along with RAM mount. I still have three 76's, which will continue to get use. I don't need anything in the 78 that isn't in the 76cx. I only got the 78 so I could learn the menus and options so I can instruct others on how to set it up for an upcoming rally race.
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I only got the 78 so I could learn the menus and options so I can instruct others on how to set it up for an upcoming rally race.
Of course. That's how it starts...

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Perhaps you just did not make yourself clear but this is wrong.

With 60/76x, you can same anything you want to 500 pts but if you upload to PC you get active log, saved 500 pt version, and everything you rode from your data card. Only if YOU decide to CLEAR Active Log do you kind of loose data but it is still on the data card so actually you can push all the buttons and nothing is lost.
prolly not clear but when I get back from a ride and download active track log to mapsource I get the full track up to 10000 points. I'm not talking about the gpx track saved to the data card. I just looked at an active log track of 5,687 pts. I did back in 2012.
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if you download the track to mapsource before saving you get the max # of points before saving cuts to 500 pts. (on 60/76)
Saving has nothing to do with how many points get downloaded from Active log. If you save you just get another "Saved Track" of 500 points besides the Active Log with how ever many points it had before saving.
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