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Old 06-22-2013, 11:13 AM   #436
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:10 PM   #437
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Old 06-22-2013, 04:50 PM   #438
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Where are you guys at? We are in Mississippi today and will be in Arkansas tomorrow... Don't want to miss meeting up with you all. We are the I'm Just Saying thread...
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:21 PM   #439
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ update ?????????????????

We are at richfield utah. Rode in frpm baker nv.

All is good. Sheared off both swingarm shock mounts on one bike.
Duct taped n bailing wired the shock to d swing arm n limped it in to get welded.

Slept at crystal peak utah last night. So beautiful! The gravel road was horrifying!!!! Thesr bikes hate sand, gravel, or ruts. That being said, nevada and utah have been awesome. I have never rode a sketchier bike in my life. Now thst we do not have the van for support, we are carrying about 60-80lbs of gear each. This is all stored on the front and rear racks giving the light bikes a very high center of gravity with the small 17x2. Wheels.

Damage so far is... 2 broke rear wheels. 3 flat tires. 3 brolen levers. 2 broke shock mounts. 2 bent front storage racks.
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:47 PM   #440
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:55 PM   #441
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............Whats your thoughts, better to lug the engine or to have high rpm's?


High rpms keep the oil pressure up. But that also shortens the life of everything,.. including oil.

I would rev it and change oil a lot.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:40 PM   #442
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You guys crack me up!

What a fantastic way to do this trip. So often we see people with big new bikes, with all the bells and whistles, doing things in great comfort comparatively. Not that there is anything wrong with that. We all ride for our own pleasure, and do it the way we want to.
I recently drove west to east across Australia, and did it in the most basic, no frills way and loved every minute.......but I'd still like to do it again with 5 star comfort just for the hell of it!

I love the way youre all doing it!

Bring on the Posties!
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:42 AM   #443
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Lugging places more load per rev,less air thru the engine equals greater heat.
choose a reasonable speed ,then back off the throttle a tad where that speed can be maintained.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:15 AM   #444
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Lugging places more load per rev,less air thru the engine equals greater heat.
choose a reasonable speed ,then back off the throttle a tad where that speed can be maintained.
Lugging can also promote detontation and that can kill and engine pretty quickly.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:31 PM   #445
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High rpms keep the oil pressure up. But that also shortens the life of everything,.. including oil.

I would rev it and change oil a lot.
If these motors are like the original Honda design, they don't have "oil pressure" - no oil pump at all or filter, for that matter.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:37 PM   #446
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If these motors are like the original Honda design, they don't have "oil pressure" - no oil pump at all or filter, for that matter.
??

My ct90 has a "pump" with a screen for an oil filter at the bottom.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:25 AM   #447
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The Hondas have an oil pump (driven by a sprocket off the timing chain), screen, and centrifugal filter. The pump supplies oil to the valvetrain. In fact, these engines will actually run for quite awhile after total oil pump failure because they rely more on splash oiling than on the pump.
The clones are just that, clones. Therefore, they have the same basic system.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #448
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??

My ct90 has a "pump" with a screen for an oil filter at the bottom.
OK .Then they must have updated the design.The old 50s and 90s just used splash lubrication afaik.
Valvetrain lubrication used to rely on oil being dragged along by the cam chain
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:15 PM   #449
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Sorry to contradict you, but the old 50s and 90s did indeed have oil pumps, gear-driven off the cam. They also did not have timing chains, because they were OHV pushrod motors.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:19 PM   #450
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All the 50s I ever saw had a cam chain and OHC. Never saw a pushrod model. Got any pics, sounds rare and unique.

Great report guys, too bad the clhineese motors are such a POS. A decent OE Honda motor would handle this adventure with no problem.
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