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Old 07-29-2014, 11:30 PM   #1
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Headlights on both my 2010 F650GS and my wife Jadey's 2008 F650GS have burned holes through the reflectors, standard wattage bulbs used the whole time, not happy as new headlights for both bikes are probably going to cost >$1500 AUD

Anyone else have this problem, if so what was BMW's reaction to it and any advice for me as I'm just about to get in contact with BMW Australia in regards to the obvious fault on both of our F650's?

The 3 pics below are of my Headlight from my 2010 F650GS






Below is the headlight from my wifes 2008 F650GS, the fog inside the headlight glass is caused by the same problem as on my bike, but hers has burned through the reflector on both the low and high beams

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Old 07-30-2014, 01:39 AM   #2
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:58 AM   #3
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Cheaper replacements available here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANALE-FARO-...item2ec5f66e51
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:18 AM   #4
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:37 AM   #5
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Two headlights suffer damage owned by the same person? This should be the seed for a good source of data, to eliminate mere coincidence. Were both bikes or headlamp housings made about the same time? What did the owner do to these two bikes or their headlamp housings and bulbs that might have contributed to identical damage to both?

To compare, I have a 55w bulb in low beam and 65w in high beam, with no damage whatsoever. The bike operates in temperatures 4-40C/25-105F all year long. I've performed no modifications. The stator is the original that came on the bike. My '09 F800GS was manufactured in October of 2008.

Perhaps there was a run of poorly-manufactured reflectors and the batch can be pinpointed based on the damaged units mentioned in this forum.

There is a label on the bottom of the housing. The photo is of just such a label, this one on an undamaged spare housing with 55w bulbs that was a take-off from a 2009 bike. The Parallel Universe can put together a database of damaged and undamaged headlamp units with this information, and determine if there is a significant correlation between damaged units and a particular batch or date range. We'd be doing exactly what BMW always does to determine if there is a pattern with failing components. This is a safety issue, and would warrant a recall in the USA if the defect can be shown.

Thinking out loud here....

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Old 07-30-2014, 05:32 AM   #6
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Bummer, I've been keeping it on my pooter for ages as insurance. Now to find a plan B....
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Bummer, I've been keeping it on my pooter for ages as insurance. Now to find a plan B....
Plan B is called Erling ... Well or Reaver... Depends if you want some stolen crap or some carbon fiber :o)
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Erling has cost me too much already with bloody clutches, so I might go under the radar with Reaver
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Old 07-30-2014, 07:25 AM   #10
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It is a pretty common problem.

My 2009 is burned significantly on the hi-beam side, and only RARELY use hi-beam....

AZZ: When you disassembled yours were you able to get the glass out in one piece?
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Italy doesn't do USA.

Fred, your pic is a 715 headlight. Only the US has a 715. Different reflector.

The rest of the world uses 713/714 which is the EU spec. Umm, I'm not sure what's used in those "wrong side of the road" Countries tho like where the OP is.

Prolonged high beam use in hot climates, yep. Standard. Same with the low beam but it has a larger housing area so it takes longer.

Warranty or ride in daylight.

Stand by for a early heat related double stator fail.
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My 2009 is burned significantly on the hi-beam side, and only RARELY use hi-beam....
You WILLED it to happen with all your worrying.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:25 AM   #13
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Two headlights suffer damage owned by the same person? This should be the seed for a good source of data, to eliminate mere coincidence. Were both bikes or headlamp housings made about the same time? What did the owner do to these two bikes or their headlamp housings and bulbs that might have contributed to identical damage to both?....

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Hey Fred, thanks for you post, will look into it further tomorrow.
My bike is a 2010 F650GS and my wifes is a 2008 F650GS, both headlights look identical but not sure (hope they are not) if they are from the same production run? Will check numbers on both headlights as soon as this miserable Melbourne weather lets me out of the house

Both mine and my wifes bikes have an obvious fault somewhere, every service even when travelling around Australia on them was carried out by the due service date and at BMW service centres, had no electrical or headlight mods, everything other than crash protection and luggage racks is all standard on both bikes...
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:28 AM   #14
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It is a pretty common problem.

My 2009 is burned significantly on the hi-beam side, and only RARELY use hi-beam....

AZZ: When you disassembled yours were you able to get the glass out in one piece?
Hey JRWooden, I had my motorcycle mechanic I work with help me disassemble my headlight but we were very unsuccessful in getting the glass out in one piece, used a heat gun and a lot of patience but they really don't want you opening the unit!! My workmate who's been a motorcycle mechanic for 20years said it was the one and only headlight glass he's had break when removing, and he's done countless before. That's why my wife's is all still untouched!
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:57 AM   #15
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Prolonged high beam use in hot climates, yep. Standard. Same with the low beam but it has a larger housing area so it takes longer.

Warranty or ride in daylight.
In Australia it is law to ride with headlight on for motorcycles, I can't physically turn my lights off without modding it which would just be expensive in fines!

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