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Old 04-27-2013, 10:03 PM   #16
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I'd say echo/stihl is a no brainer just see whats the better deal, i've got a echo back pack that works really good, my dad has a couple commercial stihls that are animals.

The main thing is make sure its got the throttle on the right hand and not a seperate one on the left.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:08 AM   #17
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Not just for leafs, apparently they are also good for drying a wet steel roof.

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Old 04-28-2013, 01:09 AM   #18
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Local Stihl dealer told me to buy red max. Red max felt cheap and had made in china written across the front. Stihl was $120 more for 30% less power than husky and I can return husky to lowes if it so much as backfires. I hate to use chain stores but there's a lot to be said for handing in tool and getting money back compared to buying a made in us (china) brand and having to pay some teenage oik $50 everytime it needs a tune up or spare part.

Husky was 299, Stihl was 120 more for less power and 489 for similar!

I'm on the bench now!
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:46 AM   #19
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On the ethanol thing: My Stihl dealer strongly encourages finding a source of ethanol free gasoline (not hard to do around here, so no biggie). Old fuel (more than 6 weeks old, according to him) will cause problems and he has had to replace rubber parts in carbs from fuel that went stale in even new machines.

Which begs the question: Why the fuck don't the manufacturers - ALL of them - build their products with rubber parts made to withstand the evils of today's fuels??????
The 'Stale Fuel' is actually because the ethanol in E10+ will attract water, which doesn't work so well as a motor fuel.
Higher concentrations of ethanol (over 10%) will start attacking the rubber that's used for seals and hoses in gasoline engines, especially if you let it sit for weeks at a time.
About 3 years ago, we did change the materials used for seals and hoses in the fuel systems, but we still have an awful lot of units that have been in the field for 10, 15, 20 years, or even longer. That's why we recommend ethanol-free fuel. Ethanol sucks.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:02 AM   #20
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Where can you buy ethanol free fuel?
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:51 AM   #21
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Not sure about leafblowers, but husky is pulling ahead of stihl with chainsaws. It's all I run now, and I have a friend that's a logger and that's all he runs. He said he was lucky to get one year out of a stihl, and he's getting 2 years out of the huskys he currently runs. Either saw gets a new top end every 4 to 6 months, but the stihl just wasn't holding up to the use.

Granted he brings 2 saws in the woods and averages 3 semi loads per day that he personally cuts. Figure each saw cuts around 500 semi truck loads per year, give or take.

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Old 04-28-2013, 08:04 AM   #22
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I had to replace a Stihl saw that I'd bought new. I had for several years and had put it through some pretty hard use but, not as long or as hard as with my preveious Stihl, an 041.
My friend ,that I'd bought it from told me it was because of "lean seize". He said it was becoming common for engines to lose the cylinder plateing due to this condition, which is caused by the ethenol in the gas attracting water and changeing the air-fuel ratio. The solution is to use a mix of ethenol free gas with the proper oil.
The problem is where to find the gas.
Stihl was selling gas at their dealers {at a premium price] but my local doesn't carry it.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:30 AM   #23
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Where can you buy ethanol free fuel?
I can buy it at the Shervin's Sinclair station in Jackson, Wyoming. Might be a bit long of a drive for you though. Looks like there's only 5 places in Arizona

Here's a link. Hopefully you'll find a place near you.

http://pure-gas.org/
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:29 AM   #24
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On Stihl.

Just picked up one of their Kombi units - dealer informed me that if I purchased & used Stihl's synthetic oil, the warranty doubles from 2 to 4 years. I loaded up. This is a 50cc two-stroke - pretty impressive.

And the unit is great; it's not a throw-away like the last two POS units I got from Lowe's or the Depot.

Just got an e-mail from Stihl, there's some sales going on now. Might be time to pounce.
Yup - just got one Friday - the KM130R (2/4 stroke hybrid). Got a pole pruner (chain saw on a pole) and a brush cutter (with 3 different blades) with a screw on string trimmer for the brush cutter.

Expensive ($700+) but now I only have one machine to maintain, I don't have to carry two or three different machines around my 20 acres and it is more powerful than any of the weed eaters.

I like Stihl stuff - most or all of it is made well, lasts a long time and most of the dealers seem to know their stuff. Going to get a chain saw too - it will be a multipurpose machine also; going to get a winch, auger and log debarker tool and such for it, so I will probably get one of the more powerful saws.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:34 AM   #25
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I had to replace a Stihl saw that I'd bought new. I had for several years and had put it through some pretty hard use but, not as long or as hard as with my preveious Stihl, an 041.
My friend ,that I'd bought it from told me it was because of "lean seize". He said it was becoming common for engines to lose the cylinder plateing due to this condition, which is caused by the ethenol in the gas attracting water and changeing the air-fuel ratio. The solution is to use a mix of ethenol free gas with the proper oil.
The problem is where to find the gas.
Stihl was selling gas at their dealers {at a premium price] but my local doesn't carry it.
http://pure-gas.org/

I go to a local country general store that has ethanol free gas. They charge a premium for it because they can, but I don't use much of it as I only get it for my tools not my vehicles. I use it for my lawn mower, pressure washer and Kombi tool. I also use it for my Beta Alp which doesn't like ethanol in its tank (rumor is it screws up the tank which is some form of plastic) and I will use it for a chain saw when I get it. All of these things prefer non-ethanol gas.

Right now I only keep five gallons, but I am going to get some barrels for gas, diesel and kerosene to keep in the shop.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:01 AM   #26
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I'm lucky that most places here ethanol free premium fuel so yeah its more but I only use maybe 8 gallons all year. I also mix the oil a little rich since my leaf blower usually is wide open the whole time.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #27
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Most every Stihl I have had runs like poop for the break in then runs great from then on. I run SeaFoam in the gas all the time and have few if any carb or fuel related problems. Heavy home/light commercial use.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:14 AM   #28
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Stihl is all I use as well. I have the BR600 and I live at the bottom of a hill on an acre.

This blower rocks. When it rains all my neighbors leaves flow downhill and pile up at the curbs at the end of my driveway. Wet heavy leaves are no match for it.

I had the 550 before I purchased this one and gave it to my uncle because he was needing a blower. Both have had heavy use and never miss a beat.
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:24 PM   #29
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I go to a local country general store that has ethanol free gas. They charge a premium for it because they can, but I don't use much of it as I only get it for my tools not my vehicles. I use it for my lawn mower, pressure washer and Kombi tool. I also use it for my Beta Alp which doesn't like ethanol in its tank (rumor is it screws up the tank which is some form of plastic) and I will use it for a chain saw when I get it. All of these things prefer non-ethanol gas.

Right now I only keep five gallons, but I am going to get some barrels for gas, diesel and kerosene to keep in the shop.
Yep, I checked the pure gas site and the closest to me is 50+ miles away. They have quite a few stations listed in Ky. but, most are in the western half of the state.
I used to go to the local airport to buy 100 octane low-lead aviation gas for my dirt bike. I may give that a try again, with all the new rules at airports , who knows ?
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:35 PM   #30
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Not just for leafs, apparently they are also good for drying a wet steel roof.

They are also great for getting bonfires roaring.
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