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Old 05-13-2013, 08:30 AM   #1
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2013 R1200 GSW Repair Manual

Anybody know if BMW has published the 2013 GS (K 50) reprom Repair Manual DVD disk. I am looking for a part number so I can order.

Tired of guessing at torque settings and procedures for the redesigned bike. I have the DVDs for the cam head GS repair manual (5th edition) and Street R models (5th edition). The new GS won't seem complete until I get the DVD service manual for the K50 series twins. Parts guy at the dealer seems clueless.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:09 AM   #2
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Me too. I do all my own non warranty work and will need the same thing.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:01 AM   #3
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As far as I know they are not yet available to the public. I need one as well for the next DVD!

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PS I am willing to do free service on the first local Wethead once I get the factory DVD!
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:57 AM   #4
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Cool. Do you make house calls? To New Mexico?

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As far as I know they are not yet available to the public. I need one as well for the next DVD!

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PS I am willing to do free service on the first local Wethead once I get the factory DVD!
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:00 PM   #5
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Cool. Do you make house calls? To New Mexico?
I'm betting that JVB WOULD service your NM-based GS...IF...you'd ride it to VA and stay a week while he does his WC DVD!

JVB may decide else wise.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:35 PM   #6
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I'm betting that JVB WOULD service your NM-based GS...IF...you'd ride it to VA and stay a week while he does his WC DVD!

JVB may decide else wise.
I have a spare bedroom, no need to even tent in the back yard! Hell, I might even serve a few beers and dinner!

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Old 05-14-2013, 05:17 AM   #7
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for your generous offer. I was kidding though My travels this summer will take me west to CA then up to Salem for the MOA rally. (And the dealer tossed in the break-in service in the deal which has already been done.)

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Old 05-14-2013, 09:09 AM   #8
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This is from a person in the know at BMW;

The reprom disc is being replaced by the RSD repair manual. This new disk covers all models and additional warranty codes.

The Part # for the disc is 01 79 7 707 275.

The price is $440.00.

Looks like I will have to wait for Haines to publish a Repair Manual. In the mean time I have a good relationship with the service manager when I need a torque spec or procedure information. If BMW doesn't publish a reprom in the $108.00 range as was the case for past models, they could lose many DIY owners which must be a big percentage of the buyers.

Hopefully in the mean time inmates will contribute useful service information as the numbers grow in the liquid cooled engine family.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:24 AM   #9
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This is from a person in the know at BMW;

The reprom disc is being replaced by the RSD repair manual. This new disk covers all models and additional warranty codes.

The Part # for the disc is 01 79 7 707 275.

The price is $440.00.

Looks like I will have to wait for Haines to publish a Repair Manual. In the mean time I have a good relationship with the service manager when I need a torque spec or procedure information. If BMW doesn't publish a reprom in the $108.00 range as was the case for past models, they could lose many DIY owners which must be a big percentage of the buyers.

Hopefully in the mean time inmates will contribute useful service information as the numbers grow in the liquid cooled engine family.
Think there's a little literary license here in the price stated!

It's really only:

Part Number Description lb Each
01797707275 DVD REPAIR &SERVICE DATA $438.88

Let me guess...official 'copies' of these WILL show up on the web for $8.99 shipped from China?
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:52 PM   #10
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The reprom disc is being replaced by the RSD repair manual. This new disk covers all models and additional warranty codes.
The 1st edition of the RSD came out in 2007. It "is intended exclusively for internal use within the worldwide dealer organisation"... i.e. not for customer use.

You could still buy the RepROM after the RSD came out. Guess: RepROM for customers, RSD for dealers.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:10 PM   #11
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Ok, the RSD has been around for a while. I hope you are right and my source is wrong about the reprom no longer being produced. I don't think BMW was ever very interested in providing repair manuals (reprom dvds) for owners to do their own repairs. First there were paper repair manuals, then PDF formatted repair manuals. Reproms came about with the hexheads and then cam heads along with the K and F series. Time will tell. This new series might be seeing another switch to the RSD as the sole format for tech info relating to repairs and service. Clearly the RSD wasn't intended for owners when it includes dealer level resources like warranty codes and quarterly updates.

We'll see within a year if there will be a consumer level repair manual. I believe the latest model before the boxer LC, the K1600 has a reprom available.
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:24 AM   #12
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R12GS-W Service Manual? Torque Specs?

Has anyone seen a manual floating around? Would love to browse through it and familiarize myself with service procedures. Would also love to get torque specs on various fasteners. Currently, I am adding some Touratech engine crash bars, and am concerned about a torque spec for some 8mm bolts that hold the frame to the (alloy) engine. (Page 4 of http://www.touratech-usa.com/media/E...045-5160-0.pdf - the bolt indicated "Original"). The First page of the linked instructions lists what I interpret as 79 NM (58 ft./lbs.) for 8mm stainless bolts, but I'm a little concerned about this number as it threads into the alloy engine case. Am I misreading that?
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:31 PM   #13
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The TT website says 7,9....that is 7 comma 9....NOT 79.

So...the REAL answer is about 8 nm.

Some of those bloody people across the pond use COMMAS instead of PERIODS.
Well aware of the comma as decimal convention, but it makes no sense in context. These are major bolts.





I think they are the number 8's in the pic below. 8mm x 45 bolts that mount the engine to the frame. Does it make any sense to you that they would be torqued to 5.8 ft./lbs.?

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Old 06-30-2013, 02:44 PM   #14
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I just installed my BMW crashbars.I used the same bolt as a mounting point and the directions stated 41 ft. lbs. hope that helps. ...........Jerry
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I just installed my BMW crashbars.I used the same bolt as a mounting point and the directions stated 41 ft. lbs. hope that helps. ...........Jerry
Jerry, that is VERY helpful!

So, just to make sure I understand, you installed the BMW brand crash bars and they called for 41?
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