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Old 05-24-2013, 12:05 PM   #46
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:25 PM   #47
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I just had a BMW salesman tell me that all GS & GSA come with the enduro transmission since 08 or 09. Based on these posts it appears he misspoke. If the enduro transmission was an option in 08 is there a way to tell if a GS has that option?
If you can easily power your way up and over the curb at Starbucks from a dead stop without having to slip the clutch and gas it, then it has the enduro trans.

Kidding aside, I love the lower first gear and find it very useful in everyday riding. Starting off on a hill with a passenger and/or loaded panniers is a cinch. And on rocky trails or badly rutted fire roads, it's awesome -- you can just tractor through the bad sections without having to touch the clutch.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:16 PM   #48
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I opted for the enduro trans when I upgraded from the previous '06 GS to the '08 GSA. I rarely ride off road, but even in just street riding, on steep hills, or heavily loaded at low speeds, the lower gear is great. Why would anyone want it higher?

I don't remember if I paid a premium for that option, or if it was part of a "package" or what, but I'm glad I have it.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:39 PM   #49
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:26 PM   #50
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The cast wheels will run through the same kinds of rocks and ruts as will the spoke wheels. When you catch up to me after the rocky section, we'll talk!!!
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:35 PM   #51
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that may be the case, but cast wheels bend. BMW cast wheels don't bend as often, but they do bend. And when that happens it isn't a matter of having a lumpy ride, it's a matter of the tubeless tire not holding air anymore.

A fellow at the RDV last week road 20 miles on a flat front because of this, and when I was at Engles BMW in Kansas City they also had a bent wheel.

It hasn't happened to you (yet) and it may not ever, but let's not pretend it doesn't happen often enough to mention.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:38 PM   #52
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The nearly one inch difference is entirely in the seat, and the dealer will gladly give you your choice of low, standard, or GSA seats at time of purchase. Lower seat height at a stop is not important to anyone

But, more to the point of the OP...
The 2013 R1200GSW (liquid cooled) is a completely different bike.
There are no parts in common with earlier models. There is no liquid cooled GSA
Right, no liquid cooled GSA yet.
BMW always start with the new motor on the GS and then work their way into a GSA and RT, etc.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:41 PM   #53
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Lowered first is a huge plus when you are in the shit.

You got that right, especially with a large single plate dry clutch. Unless you can pick through the trail at 14 mph, the bike wants to stall. And because you really shouldn't work the dry clutch under load, it's a bit of a sticky situation. And don't dab.
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