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Old 04-28-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
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Wavey oil filter/ oil looks ok ?

Did I get it just as the wp starting to go?
I have only just bought this 06 990 so dont know if the water level has been dropping. PO wont give away too much. Top end noisy for first minute or so while riding then goes nice a normal/quiet.
No milky oil came out but I suspect wp failing. Filter was def wavey.
Thinking of doing filter swap and normal 10/50 oil for a bit to see if symptoms return. What say ye?
39k kms.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:34 PM   #2
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Wavey is a sure sign of water hitting the filter. Why not just put a Scott's oil filter in it? That way, you don't have to worry.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:39 PM   #3
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Wavey is a sure sign of water hitting the filter. Why not just put a Scott's oil filter in it? That way, you don't have to worry.
But- don't you want to know if you have water?
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:43 PM   #4
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Wavey is a sure sign of water hitting the filter. Why not just put a Scott's oil filter in it? That way, you don't have to worry.
We have one and they are beautifully made.

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But- don't you want to know if you have water?
We went through that as well, for me I have taken to doing the pre-ride check to include coolant level, the main reason for the Scotts is on the road ease of cleaning / changing filters and not having to carry spare or try and find one at oil change time.
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But- don't you want to know if you have water?
If you have a waterpump failure, the first sign that you are having a problem is often more cam chain noise as the oil pressure has dropped in the engine because of the fouled oil filter. It doesn't take long to destroy cam journals with low oil pressure. That's expensive. Very expensive.

So, what's your preference? Would you like to run a Scotts to assure you that even if you have water in your oil the engine will continue to receive pressure where it counts? Or, would you prefer to run a paper filter so that you hopefully find a wavy filter before you lose pressure. I go with the Scotts every time. I don't want to take the chance of not finding the bad filter in time. An engine can run with water in the oil, and I always inspect the oil at oil changes to look for signs of coolant. So, where some might find a wavy filter at an oil change, I find coolant in the oil -- and a nice, shiny Scotts filter.
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Have you pulled the clutch cover to check it for foamy oil?
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If you have a waterpump failure, the first sign that you are having a problem is often more cam chain noise as the oil pressure has dropped in the engine because of the fouled oil filter. It doesn't take long to destroy cam journals with low oil pressure. That's expensive. Very expensive.

So, what's your preference? Would you like to run a Scotts to assure you that even if you have water in your oil the engine will continue to receive pressure where it counts? Or, would you prefer to run a paper filter so that you hopefully find a wavy filter before you lose pressure. I go with the Scotts every time. I don't want to take the chance of not finding the bad filter in time. An engine can run with water in the oil, and I always inspect the oil at oil changes to look for signs of coolant. So, where some might find a wavy filter at an oil change, I find coolant in the oil -- and a nice, shiny Scotts filter.
That is exactly my thinking too.
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I opened the clutch cover and it looked good apart from a very thin smear of whitish stuff on the back of the cover.
If there is coolant in the system, I would have thought there would be more of a milky thing going on everywhere.
I may get a Scotts, but for now I will just replace with stock and see if fresh oil does anything to stop the clatter. Not that I plan to use it for very long. More a engine flush than anything.
That is as long as there is no harm in going Full Syth to dino and back ??
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That is as long as there is no harm in going Full Syth to dino and back ??
No harm at all from that, others have run 7500 km with dino oil with no ill effects.

I was worried about ours, the noise deadener seems to be a point where condensation forms a bit but burns off after a longer ride.

Also for oil it takes less than 1% to turn oil milky and look horrific but your engin heat will burn off the coolant quickly so keep an eye on the expension tank level.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:00 PM   #10
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Going to play safe and get a wp from Cj and do it properly. The little I rode it (10 kms) I am sure it used some coolant so bugger it, as much as I want to ride it now, it goes under the knife :)
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