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Old 05-30-2013, 04:40 PM   #61
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Getting Ready for Durty Dabbers

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Off to the garage to install some stuff in preparation for the ride to Loch Haven PA tomorrow for Durty Dabbers.

• Renthal 809-01 7/8 RC High Bars
• Axle Blocks
• New Axle
• Axle Nut
• MSR Shifter - 34-2174
• Sidestand spring and spring puller - realized my sidestand was flopping around when I was riding and thought the bolt was loose, but later realized the spring was buggered. Don't understand how that could happen really, but things need to be made right.

What went down:

Handlebar install and shifter install went without a hitch, but…
had to cut the nut off off the axle. It was straight up welded to the axle.

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The thread was really messed up on the axle.

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The buttery axle block.

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The buggered spring.

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The new spring.

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New Shifter.

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Old 06-05-2013, 12:20 AM   #62
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Durty Dabbers, Lock Haven, PA, 6/1–6/2

After spending Thursday evening getting the bike prepped with new handlebar and replacing the axle, I was excited to try out the new improvements to the bike.

One of the major things was dialing in the suspension - realized that with all my gear and tools/water, I weigh close anywhere from 175-190lbs depending on how wet or muddy I get. that's about 35 to 40 lbs of additional gear on top of my 145lb frame after its all said and done. I set the sag more than the manual specified and that was making the rear end feel a little dead.

Left Friday afternoon around 5pm and spent 45 minutes getting to the GW Bridge. This is the first time I was able to take the bike on the highway and quickly realized that the 12/47 gearing really only allow me to ride comfortably around 60-65 mph. Anything above was possible but not comfortable due to a mild headshake, which is weird because I never felt that way on WRR the 1st - I think maybe because I use to run a scott damper. Also want to add that it was windy which contributes to that sometimes.

After several hours, I made it to the Castanea Campground at around 10:30 pm and made camp in the dark. Stopped over to see some Long Island inmates and then crashed.

Saturday

The next morning

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Camping the field under a tree

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Looks Good In Red next to the sweet pop up

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Looks Good In Black throwing a leg over Gary's Bike

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Kenny and his awesome 300

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The first alternate section was a blockbuster due to a long rocky hill climb. Mostly everyone was patient save for the occasional type a enduro rider.

In line with Kenny in front

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and Husky behind

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First gas stop

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One of the group on his KLX250's battery died, so he had to bump start it. Dude impressively killed it (aka fast on a slow bike) on the trail. He had to keep it running otherwise it would have not been pretty trying to bump start on a rocky trail.

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Bump starting at certain points

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Coming out of the woods

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At the snack stop

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Amazing vistas. I love the Penn Wilds.

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Back at Camp. I survived and it was fun.

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The Dabbers Trial Riders put on a show over a delicious dinner. Always a good time and the food was hearty.

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Looks Good in Black

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The showers were backed up so some of the inmates decided to bathe in the river. I showered already but up for river dip and join.

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As night fell, some friends from NYC arrived to the campground and would be joining us for the ride.

Sunday

Sunday morning, there was threat of 70% showers, and it rained a bit, but to our delight the weather people were wrong for most of the weekend. It was fantastic yesterday and today would be no different as the day developed.

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Dick, the guy parked next to my tent site has been to this ride every year since my first ride back in 2010 and it's alway nice to see some familiar faces. Rode with him and his friends back in '10, and '11. We occupy the same space every year. He was really questioning doing the second day due to soreness.

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Ilya brought his recently acquired Super Tenere, one of the few big bike guys. He later regret bringing it because he felt the ADV route was too easy so took the Dual Sport ride towards the end of the day.

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Damian and Josh. Josh would have a gnarly crash in the first section following a smaller enduro bike that traversed a large hole in the trail. Blood was drawn. Hope he feels better.

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Fresh riders from NYC, Chris & Josh

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Taking a break after a long loose nasty chicaning hill climb. Dabbers is challenging.

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Guy from north jersey on the XR250R who helped after I drop my bike in the river the at the first big water crossing before the second big spectator water crossing.

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I didn't completely submerge the bike, and was able to ride it out of the river. I thought everything was OK, but from the first river crossing to the second, about a quarter mile away, the bike was acting erratically and cutting out. When I arrived the mouth of the second water crossing, it just died. Confused, I asked one of the Dabber's kids on the entry side what he thought and he recommended I check the airbox. After pulling the side cover and the opening it, at least a liter of water came pouring out. I was shocked. I undid the drain at the bottom to let out the rest of the water.

Due to the airbox design—which is a good one in that it turns up before it goes back down to the intake vs. a straight shot—the bike was taking in water over rough bumping areas and luckily there was no downhill section which would have pushed a lot more water into the intake.

After buttoning the steed back up, I fire it up , hit the rev limiter a couple of times and just dive into the river standing on the pegs and made it over gloriously. If I drop it, no biggie as I had essentially already drowned the bike and had nothing to lose.

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At the gas refill and snack area

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Lunch at the firehouse

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Beautiful church in the scenic town we had lunch.

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Drink thirsty little 2 stroke… Josh didn't have enough premix oil so had to buy some chainsaw oil from the gas station. The attendent was very nice and helpful.

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After lunch, I inadvertently lost my friends as I was blasting down the highway at 60 and since losing my left mirror was unaware that they didn't see me make a left turn.

After backtracking and waiting, I decided to go forward to Hyner View and left them a message.

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On my own in the woods

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As I remembered from years past, the section after lunch is a super rough downhill next to a stream and then back up the moutainside along a rough ridge woods road that followed the valley back to camp.

Made it back and 10 minute later, my posse showed up.

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Back at camp and packing up

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Ilya riding my bike to load it up on his trailer. Thankful to be trailering back after such a long ride. I've ridden there and back in the years past, but given the choice I would trailer.

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All in all, this ride is one of my favorite and I intend on coming back every year if I can. Its a challenging one, but the warmth of the people, the breathtaking scenery and elevation changes make it an epic ride. There is very little pavement and whenever there is, it's a refuge from the rockyness of trails. For people thinking of doing this, I would leave your big bikes at home and come with something light and trail friendly. Anything below 300 lb should be OK. There are section of steep rocky downhills, tight rooted and rocky single track, mudholes, and super long rocky water crossings.

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Observation: Not sure if it was me or the bike, but I feel like going above 65mph on the freeway made the bike feel a little squirrely on the front end. This might be mental due the fact that I used to run damper and would crank it up for high speed and freeway and it made a big difference in stability and headshake. Also, there was a section of gravel on the dabbrs ride that before, I would really not sweat and actually enjoyed, but without the damper I did not really experience the same feeling this go around. Really, this a case of "you don't know what you got till its gone." After deflecting and crashing on the trails several time and this slight high speed instability, I ordered a GPR stabilizer and consider it a worthy investment.

I wouldn't need a damper if I weren't pushing it on this bike, but I've had too many simple crashes that I feel shouldn't happen and didn't in the those same situations in the past.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:21 AM   #63
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The sqirrelliness on the highway may be because you increased your preload. How high are the forks in the triple clamps? I have mine set almost flush to the top of the clamp. My WR is rock solid at high(er) speeds, especially compared to the KLX I had before. Now that thing was squirrelly!
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Nice writing makes for good reading. Thanks for sharing!!
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:26 AM   #65
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Suspension Sag Settings

Before I reset the preload, the static sag was way too much (42mm static and Race Sag at 97mm at 160 lbs-ish weight). After the Berkshires Ride, I weighed myself with all equipment (damp) and I came in a 189lb!

So for this ride, I set it for a target weight of 175 lbs @ 89mm Race sag, 32mm static sag.

My forks are flush against the top of the triple clamps. To put in perspective, it's not as squirrelly as the KTM 690R I used to have, of which I felt like I could crash just going in a straight line.



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The sqirrelliness on the highway may be because you increased your preload. How high are the forks in the triple clamps? I have mine set almost flush to the top of the clamp. My WR is rock solid at high(er) speeds, especially compared to the KLX I had before. Now that thing was squirrelly!
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:44 AM   #66
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Great bike and a fitting tribute!

Are you parking it in the same place? I've almost worn out your first one and need an upgrade.
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Before I reset the preload, the static sag was way too much (42mm static and Race Sag at 97mm at 160 lbs-ish weight). After the Berkshires Ride, I weighed myself with all equipment (damp) and I came in a 189lb!

So for this ride, I set it for a target weight of 175 lbs @ 89mm Race sag, 32mm static sag.

My forks are flush against the top of the triple clamps. To put in perspective, it's not as squirrelly as the KTM 690R I used to have, of which I felt like I could crash just going in a straight line.
I suppose it's all subjective. It sounds like your 690 was like my KLX.
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It was well worn before you stole it, my friend. I don't park it on the streets anymore. Between crochety neighbor who think they own the street, policemen that don't care, and theives that do, I just park it in a garage.

I commute via bicycle now to keep my fitness up to par with riding a 300 lb bike on the trails.

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Are you parking it in the same place? I've almost worn out your first one and need an upgrade.
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It was well worn before you stole it, my friend. I don't park it on the streets anymore. Between crochety neighbor who think they own the street, policemen that don't care, and theives that do, I just park it in a garage.

I commute via bicycle now to keep my fitness up to par with riding a 300 lb bike on the trails.
Ok, got it. Where do you park the bike?
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How time flies! Gotta leave for the Roaming Rally next Wednesday and it feels like I just got back from the Durty Dabbers. Nothing I can really to do to the bike at this point. Ordered a damper, but probably wont have time to install, and I don't have the fatbars on hand anyway. Will most likely send the suspension out to Go Race when i get back.
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:22 PM   #71
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2013 Durty Dabber - Part 1

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Old 06-06-2013, 04:51 PM   #72
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Simonpig - enjoying your thread. You must be exhausted on Monday morning!

From the glimpses I get, your rear tire looks close to done?
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In the simonpig household a rear tire isn't done until steel is showing.

You're right though. Going through the mud was sketch. I can squeeze another ride out of them I think.

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From the glimpses I get, your rear tire looks close to done?
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Nice, no dust and deep woods out of the sun. How many miles of trail?
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About 180 miles over 2 days.
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